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dln949 Said differently: you know that horror movie "Christine", about the Chevy mysteriously inhabited by an evil spirit that killed people? That's exactly how AI doesn't work in 2024. 2029, maybe? But if so it's probably not the phones that will rise up against us. While there are a lot of them, the battery life while running "AI" code is really short!

Personally I recommend watching out for the legislators, not the AI chips.

    de0u Well, the actual chips themselves are neither good nor bad, right? But, my understanding is that the more powerful chips enable the OS to do more and new things, things the legislators might want - and those more and new things are what can be good or bad.

    So, my thinking is that we need to watch out for the legislators and the programmers - more specifically, we need to watch out for the legislators and the tech industry (which to a significant degree appear to have fused together and greatly influence each other).

    • de0u replied to this.

      dln949 My understanding is that the more powerful chips enable the OS to do more and new things, things the legislators might want - and those more and new things are what can be good or bad.

      Yes. But that is true every year, for the past 50-plus years. Before there was an Internet (I remember that), people couldn't use the Internet to snoop on people's buying habits or political thoughts.

      dln949 So, my thinking is that we need to watch out for the legislators and the programmers - more specifically, we need to watch out for the legislators and the tech industry (which to a significant degree appear to have fused together and greatly influence each other).

      What if the legislators say companies can't use AI to snoop on companies and the companies do? It will at least be painful. But what if the legislators say that every company must snoop?

        de0u

        "What if the legislators say companies can't use AI to snoop on companies and the companies do? It will at least be painful. But what if the legislators say that every company must snoop?"

        Yep, understand your point, very valid. In the case you propose the legislators are the main problem.

        I put to you a different case: What if many in the tech industry say to the legislators, Hey, look at this power we can share with you, see all you can do with it.... and all we ask for is appropriate "compensation" and "considerations" and "priveleges" and "participation" as your partner.

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          CatPaw

          In the factory Google Pixel firmware Google Assistant has access to both the screen as an image and the screen as text. This is turned on by default.

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            Do you have a good link/source with more info?
            I'd love to read the documentation.

              dln949 What if many in the tech industry say to the legislators, Hey, look at this power we can share with you, see all you can do with it.... and all we ask for is appropriate "compensation" and "considerations" and "priveleges" and "participation" as your partner.

              That could happen. What options are there?

              1. Call up politicians and tell them you will donate to and vote for their opponents if they do.
              2. Call up companies and ask them not to make AI chips?
              3. Call up companies and ask them not to ask politicians to mandate snooping?
              4. ?

              A separate app with no net connection, perhaps in its own profile, could encrypt the file, before sending it from another profile using an appropriate app

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              What is a 'Recall' anyway? Right now it just sounds terrible. Glad that I don't use Windows as my main OS.

              CatPaw
              I would rather be poked in the undercarriage with a sharp stick than submit to this Orwellian nightmare. Even assuming the best case scenario where Microsoft has your best interest at heart (lol) and will never access this information and protect it properly; is the juice really worth the squeeze and its potential for disaster? I think not.