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  • Want Notifications of new ProtonMail

I came upon the Apps window, with Google Play Services. Which has; GmsCompatConfig, Google Services Framework, and, Google Play Store. Can any of these allow notifications to function?

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    mawil1013 Yes. I believe you install all three (which will give you google services and subsequently push notifications for things like protonmail).

      Yeah, the U.S. and other governments have been getting Apple and Google to hand over push notifications of those using e2e messengers so they can tie their use of e2e messengers to a name on a Google or Apple account. Apparently they just can't demand Google or Apple to hand over a list of the billions of users who have downloaded Whatsapp or Signal from app stores. Kind of weird to me., and typically creepy. No metadata on a Signal push even with stock Android. Anyway, not a prob as GOS can't hand over account data on you. Just don't sign-in to Google Play. They don't need that for pushes and will be nicely sandboxed from your apps.

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      mawil1013

      Yes, they are required for push notification.
      Install google play services and the rest will install automatically
      google play services - allow network permission and unrestricted battery
      google play store - allow network
      google services framework - no need to change anything

      [deleted] What I've done is factory wiped so that phone is 'pure' again. I then installed Proton, VPN (fdroid ver), Mail, Password Mgr, and Calendar Apps. The only other app is from F-Droid called; Simple Mobile Notes.
      I'm going to try to connect with others, instead of text, using ProtonMail. Especially with my wife. Who also has Proton. I figure this will give a superior method of encrypted messages. Which is why I want notifications of Proton.

      From this point, no more Apps and use Vanadium for YouTube, reddit, etc. Thanks to everyone who replied!

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        mawil1013 Is there any particular reason you are using ProtonMail instead of texts? A few things about Protonmail,

        ProtonMail is only e2ee (end to end encrypted) if you are emailing with someone inside of the protonmail ecosystem. So you would have to either send emails from your protonmail account to another protonmail account or password protect the email from a protonmail account to a non-protonmail account. If you don't do either of these things, your email is not e2ee. This means that emails sent from Protonmail to non-protonmail providers can be read by the provider of the non-protonmail email service. The email contents will still be stored on your protonmail account encrypted, but gmail (for example) will have a plain text copy (which means it could be read if accessed by gmail). To simplify: If you are not emailing with someone inside of the protonmail ecosystem (either by proton-proton email, or proton-non proton password protected email) then your email is non e2ee, and although the email contents will be stored on your protonmail account encrypted, it will not be on the non-protonmail email provider's.

        Additionally per ProtonMail's privacy policy:

        "Due to limitations of the SMTP protocol, we have access to the following email metadata: sender and recipient email addresses, the IP address incoming messages originated from, attachment name, message subject, and message sent and received times. We do NOT have access to encrypted message content, but unencrypted messages sent from external providers to your Account, or from Proton Mail to external unencrypted email services, are scanned for spam and viruses to pursue the legitimate interest of protecting the integrity of our Services and users. Such inbound messages are scanned for spam in memory, and then encrypted and written to disk. We do not possess the technical ability to scan the content of the messages after they have been encrypted. We also have access to the following records of Account activity: number of messages sent, amount of storage space used, total number of messages, last login time."

        So understand that certain information (metadata) even though the email is encrypted, can still be accessed by Protonmail (just not the body of the email as it is stored encrypted). This also means that you would want to use a VPN or Tor if you want to send an email "anonymously" and be mindful of identifiers in fields such as the subject line, the naming of attachments, etc.

        If you need a higher levels of security regarding emails, then it is best practice to use PGP and encrypt them yourself (although this is entirely unrealistic and unecessary for most people), it would be used for more sensitive tasks.

        I want to make it clear that i'm not shitting on Proton, I think they have a nice product, I'm merely putting the use of email into context so that you know the limitations of the technology you are using.

        For day to day use (for texts), have you considered using a secure messaging app like Signal? It is the same in regards to e2ee, it's just a messaging app instead of email. I think protonmail is fine to use when you have to use email, but for day to day messaging I think that something like Signal will be eons more efficient and easier.

        Additionally (since you were listing applications):
        For a youtube alternative: Newpipe
        For a google maps alternative: OSMAND
        For 2FA authenticator app: Yubico (will require buying hardware key)
        For a notes app: Standard notes
        For multiple alias emails to use alongside your Protonmail account: Simple Login
        For an offline password manager: keepass2android offline

        Sources for you to research further regarding ProtonMail:
        https://proton.me/support/proton-mail-encryption-explained
        https://proton.me/support/password-protected-emails
        https://proton.me/blog/how-to-send-an-anonymous-email#how-to-send-an-anonymous-email
        https://proton.me/blog/what-are-email-headers#what-do-email-headers-contain
        https://proton.me/mail/privacy-policy

        Cheers.