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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5yPBV2NKhc

SOG did a video on this, seems like once upon a time the FBI may have used a fork of GOS for a "privacy phone" honey pot. It was found out after seeing connections that were being made from the phone (i'm assuming from looking up live logs of DNS queries). A GOS connetion was seen requesting a time query. This is discussed at 20:35.

Anyway, I found it interesting and wanted to share, cheers.

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    This was covered a couple years ago already and explained many times over.

    Daniel Micay, lead developer of security and privacy focused Android operating system GrapheneOS, also provided Motherboard with images someone had recently sent him of a third Anom device. That phone was a Google Pixel 3a, suggesting Anom loaded its software onto multiple iterations of phones over time, and the Anom login screen was not immediately accessible.
    "The calculator theoretically opens chat but it doesn't work anymore. They said it requires entering a specific calculation," Micay said. "Quite amusing security theater."
    Micay said others claimed that Anom used GrapheneOS itself, but "it sounds like they may have advertised it to some people by saying it uses GrapheneOS but it has no basis."
    "Basically [it] sounds like people have heard of GrapheneOS so these companies either use it in some way (maybe actual GrapheneOS, maybe a fork) or just claim they did when they didn't," he said.


    Almost every privacy and security product is essentially a scam, especially all these 'private' and 'secure' phone products. Some are literally run by organized crime and/or the FBI like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANOM. They apparently claimed to use GrapheneOS and definitely didn't.

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    [deleted] Based on the investigation done into it, it had a small subset of GrapheneOS changes applied and they falsely advertised it as GrapheneOS. They likely took some of the changes in order to mislead people into believing they were given a variant of GrapheneOS. It didn't use the GrapheneOS branding though.

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      admin Ah I see, thanks for the input.

      a year later

      admin why do people trust cryptophones like this, especially with the use of an unknown and probably closed sourced messaging app? I can't understand how people fall for this. Imagine someone stands at the corner go "hey hey, psst psst, do you want a phone with an operating system you don't know and use a messaging app you also don't know and which's integrity is not veryfied by anyone or any community?" Who would say yes? Especially if the demand of device security is high?

        Many, if not most, things are marketed to ”people who don’t understand”.

        If you don’t know as much about it as the guy trying to sell it to you, you may be in trouble.