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Ram You should set battery usage of these three apps to unrestricted
Is there any logic behind this? As setting battery usage to unrestricted could cause the app to use more battery.
And btw phone and messaging are already in unrestricted mode and it can't be changed.
Malakai Is there any logic behind this
The logic behind this is that these three apps are system apps and 2 of them i.e. Phone & message should be always in background without killed by any task killer or Android's App battery optimisation.
There is an example that suppose an app is used most of the time & and should be running in background for proper functioning. It would be better if that app should be kept in RAM so that CPU don't have to work each time to start the app. And the phone, message and launcher app is very main component of a modern smartphone. This thing always work when your phone is power on. So keeping these types of app on restricted mode make your phone to do extra work each time. That's why most of these systems app come with unrestricted mode by default. These apps always run in background so it doesn't matter that you put these apps on optimised or unrestricted. But it will affect your usage of phone when these apps is restricted.
In Android 14 higher SDK app is recommended. But as I know that there Targeted SDK is lower (I may be wrong). But when you lunch these apps (phone & message) first time in Android 14, a warning is shown that app is not compatible. It also can be a reason of misbehaving. Because your launcher is consuming 20% of battery, Messaging & phone 12% & 10% respectively in interval of approx. 12 hours. It is very very high battery usage.
I tried my best to explain. If you think these things are just myth or useless then ,for experiment/test, you can put your all apps to restricted mode. I made this mistake 3 months ago and thinking that if app would not run in background then my battery backup will increase but a opposite thing happened. Because everytime my device have to work hard to launch an app instead of loading it from RAM.
True, it makes absolutely sense to have these apps unrestricted.
But as you stated yourself, they are already unrestricted by default and even if I wanted I couldn't change this.
I can't quite understand what is the action that I should do to try to solve the battery drain problem I am facing?
PS : My wife has a Pixel 5, also on latest stable GrapheneOS version, with the same apps installed and the same overall configuration for the system and the apps, but she is not facing this battery drain issue. Her phone lasts for more than 3 days with average usage.
I did some debugging on the Pixel 6a and top shows the following (click on the link to see the screenshot) :
From what I understand the top CPU intensive processes are mainly used to provision Sim functionality.
Having a look at the sim settings, I've seen that the VoLTE option was activated, but not functional (calls are still downgraded to 2G, as my provider doesn't offer 3G anymore since some time).
I deactivated VoLTE and now top shows this :
So it seems that somehow the CPU intensive processes were trying to provision VoLTE on GrapheneOS, without success, and were stuck, consuming a lot of CPU 24/7, thus the battery drain.
Hopefully this could help others in the same situation.
Malakai So it seems that somehow the CPU intensive processes were trying to provision VoLTE on GrapheneOS, without success, and were stuck, consuming a lot of CPU 24/7, thus the battery drain.
Thanks for reporting back! That may well help other users. If you are in a position to identify the carrier, that might be useful as well.
Malakai That is very useful. i am not android developer and I was using 'better battery stats' app for doctoring my cellphone but the app stopped working with android 14.
using the top command appears to really find something.
Anybody knows about a good app showing process stats? (good means - gives results, can be ugly, no ads, i'd rather buy it).
anyway this instant doctoring, ups and downs, not sure. two weeks good, then days with 30%/hr drain. I had to buy another cheap android cellphone because i could not do some work related stuff because my battery was empty at worst possible moments.. so now i am carrying two devices, on one i am with privacy, on the second of course, people at google know even how often I fart.
annoyingly (is that a word?) that damn cheap moto phone lasts 6! days.. for 20% price of pixel.. uh huh
just for info - my top sinners
1433 system 18 -2 3.1T 491M 371M S 5.3 6.5 2:55.21 system_server
1904 u0_a104 0 0 3.2T 304M 184M S 2.0 4.0 3:15.34 com.android.systemui
5916 u11_a138 20 0 3.1T 214M 148M S 1.3 2.8 1:09.71 com.whatsapp
579 system 12 -8 3.2T 73M 50M S 1.0 0.9 1:59.20 surfaceflinger
526 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 0.6 0.0 0:19.62 [sugov:0]
2172 radio 20 0 3.1T 155M 96M S 0.3 2.0 0:20.36 com.android.phone
not sure what com.android.systemui and surfaceflinger do with phone locked, screen off.
I kicked out default launcher, with novalauncher, it appears that com.android.systemui uses less cpu. will continue experimenting...
muhaha after first night with default launcher away, the night drain was 9% instead of 30% as it was recently..
Techtrest I also noticed that the screen timeoff is often not working. The screen stays on until I switch it off via button. Rebooting the phone temporarily restores the feature. But it can return any time.
I second this.
yosk just swapped launchers.
I am not android expert but why is the com.android.systemui having constant cpu load if the screen is off and locked? ui related should sleep like a baby imho then...
Hi, having battery drain on a P8a. I got it brand new in mid December. I'm not sure which stock android version it came with, I flashed GOS A15 straight away. Not sure if this has anything to do with the battery drain. I can't get a full day without charging. Mobile network 70% and system idle 17% are the culprits. Would a factory reset fix this ?
LTE only
Also I restored from a P4xl seedvault backup. Would this have an effect ?
I also upgraded to a Pixel 8a and the battery lasts waaaaaay less than on the previous Pixel 5 and 6a (with the same apps installed and same global usage), but I can get like roughly 2 days out of it, with moderate usage (no heavy usage like gaming or watching long videos, but rather short ones, music, mails, some phone calls, instant messaging). If I have the Private Space (were I have Google Services and some banking and ride apps) unlocked, then the battery drops even quicker.
I am not able to trust the battery usage report in the settings anymore, as I don't find it accurate regarding what uses the most battery. In my case, for the last days, it says the WiFi used 90% of the battery, when it was used for maybe an hour in the last 2 days. I connect to WiFi only at home and when needing data connection on the phone (most of the time when I'm at home I use the PC and not the phone so much) and in the rest of the time I am on LTE or no connection.
words Are you using 5G?
Didn't see any difference regarding battery usage when I was using 5G and now when I am on LTE. So I'm not sure it really has that much of an impact on battery usage (I'm not saying it doesn't have at all, just not perceivable).
kdf Also I restored from a P4xl seedvault backup. Would this have an effect ?
Seedvault backups don't seem to be reliable, as many people stated in the forum and from personal experience.
When I had to migrate to the Pixel 8a, I set up everything from scratch.
Maybe you should try to reset it and see if the battery usage changes.
If you go that route, please report back.
Malakai, did you restore from seedvault too ?
