Car tracking

Blastoidea

In general, if you think you can hide, you’re either misinformed or delusional. (I think)

We just do the best we can with the tools at hand.

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There will be a warning ticket to get it fixed within X amount of time. Just like a broken taillight. So the driver either pays $59 to get new plates or gets a $110 fine the next time a cop sees it.

csis01 The whole paint layer peels off in one sheet all at once

Nope, look at the photo in the article. Each number/letter peels individually.

Blastoidea In general, if you think you can hide, you’re either misinformed or delusional.

This is how people get caught. Doing silly things to try to hide. Peeling license plates isn't not an effective, "one cool trick to evade police from tracking you".

csis01

In Canada, the Province of Ontario issued a few million license plates where the paint would just peel off of them. When that happens, you become untrackable. And because the license plate remains their property, you get to just keep driving it like that until the cops tell you that you have to get a new plate.

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csis01
I believe Canadian plates are front and back, so it's likely LPRs would still track you. Even if the automated process fails, the images are retained for manual review.
The plates are the property of vehicle owners. The government will only warranty them for 5 years, after than, it's like $50-$60 to replace. If the cops do see it, people have been charged $110 fine for not replacing their plates.

OldFart

Remember all newer vehicles have Direct TPMS. Each tire has one and each one has a unique serial number. Governments could install readers at every traffic signal and track your car. Further with other devices like your cell phone they can correlate data...

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OldFart

I've seen TPMS tracking. It's not as easy/useful as it was made to be. It would be a big expense to install readers for mass surveillance. Also fairly unreliable since they chirp at long intervals, especially when stopped. Probably not worth it since the vast majority already have long range internet connectivity anyway.

csis01

Graphite The paint peels off of ALL of the plates, not just one. Retained images are irrelevant if there is no data to be obtained from them. Plates are the property of the government. A bad cop can try to write you a ticket, but it will ALWAYS be overturned when confronted, AND it is THEIR responsibility to replace it at no cost.

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csis01

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/drive/mobility/article-why-is-ontario-charging-drivers-to-replace-peeling-plates-its-the/
Nope. People have been charged. The courts are siding with cops, of course.

2022: "he would have to pay a $59 fee, because the plates were more than five years old,"

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/ontario-licence-plate-problems
This has been going on for many years, and I don't see anyone getting out of paying the fine.

2016: "An officer will usually issue a warning the first time, but once that’s in the system, it’s up to the owner to get that plate fixed. The next time, a ticket will be issued.” It’s a $110 ticket."

When the reflective color layer peels away, the stamped number/letter is still raised, visible and recognizable to a human eye. The LPR may fail because it needs a lot of contrast, but a human can still see it. Plus, not all number/letters are gone, and a partial plate is matched with records of the make/model/color of the car.

csis01

The only time a charge for that can stick is if the vehicle owner ignores an order to have the plates replaced.
And try again with the paint peeling. The whole paint layer peels off in one sheet all at once.

csis01

Graphite There will be a warning ticket to get it fixed within X amount of time. Just like a broken taillight. So the driver either pays $59 to get new plates or gets a $110 fine the next time a cop sees it.

There you go, except that the driver pays ZERO to get new plates.

I don't care about pictures in the article. I care about what actually happens in real life. They peel off in sheets.

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csis01

Do you have a single photo of what you claim happens in real life?
And I've already shown proof that the warranty is 5 years, after that, drivers aren't paying $0, they are paying $59.

This is just plain bad advice for anyone wanting to evade car tracking.

csis01

Graphite It wasn't advice, it was a joke.
And no, I'm not going to send you a picture of MY license plate to prove it.

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csis01

csis01 It wasn't advice, it was a joke.

Missed the sarcasm.

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