Wallet - Google Pay

mobos

MetropleX Thank you very much!

flawedworld

Note that other features of Google Wallet work fine, it's just NFC payments which won't work since we are not certified by Google.

applesbana

flawedworld

Do you know of alternatives to google wallet if all I want is boarding passes?

kyuweftea

For those using GPay/Wallet for non-nfc things like airplane boarding passes, there are two ways I've found it can be accessed:

Method 1: Navigate to Settings > Apps > Sandboxed Google Play > Google Settings > Settings for Google apps > Google Wallet

Method 2:

Install Google Wallet from play store
Grant Google Play Services access to Phone and SMS permissions
Launch Google Wallet app

HiperFall

Hello, everyone. Are there any news on getting GrapheneOS whitelisted by Google for NFC payments? Is there some procedure that GrapheneOS has to go through?

matchboxbananasynergy

HiperFall There isn't really a path for GrapheneOS to do that. GrapheneOS doesn't pass the checks Google requires to be considered a certified Android OS because it does things like adding the network and sensors permissions.

If Google wanted (or any other app which uses Play Integrity API), it could support GrapheneOS by following this guide:

https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

It's up to them whether they'd like to do that.

timttmy

applesbana Have you had a look at https://apps.kde.org/en-gb/itinerary/ ?
I've never used it but I've heard good things about it from the guys on the late night linux podcast

[deleted]

applesbana Catima might be what you're after.

BalooRJ

[deleted] Could I get some more information on Catima? I ran into this issue where I could not download tickets to a sporting event because they wanted to use Google Wallet even in the browser. No desktop access possibility either which sucks. The companies are trying to cut out the reseller market.

Nopesef

I wonder how hard it would be for a dev to create an app for Graphene which copies the NFC code off a debit or credit card and then relay it when authenticated with Fingerprint or something

abcZ

Nopesef You can't just copy an NFC chip. The chip is a lot more sophisticated than just dumping data stored in memory. It has a CPU that processes transaction data for authentication purposes.

keatonhj

Surely this should be no.1 priority by GrapheneOS team. It's the only thing stopping mass adoption.

bayesian

keatonhj Surely this should be no.1 priority by GrapheneOS team. It's the only thing stopping mass adoption.

I disagree. I was an iPhone user for 5 years before migrating to GrapheneOS. My bank did not wanted to give apple a share of payments so my debit/credit cards were never able be used in Apple Wallet.
I think that the no. 1 priority of GrapheneOS should be its bread and butter: security!

matchboxbananasynergy

The thing is, there's nothing for GrapheneOS to prioritize here. It can't pass CTS tests beause it adds things like new permissions for greater privacy and security, so it is fundamentally incompatible with getting certified by Google.

Apps that want to whitelist GrapheneOS while still using SafetyNet / Play Integrity API can do so using GrapheneOS's guide:

https://grapheneos.org/articles/attestation-compatibility-guide

nazar-pc

matchboxbananasynergy Is there a place to read why better security and privacy is fundamentally incompatible with certification?
Also I'm not sure it is the right attitude to assume Google would want to certify GrapheneOS, it is us, users of GrapheneOS, that should ping Google to do the certification, maybe with assistance of GrapheneOS developers (no idea if it is necessary).