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  • Privileged eSIM management - concerns?

What is shared with Google when priv esim is used?

I also noticed that I can disable it once the eSIM is working, but after rebooting the phone, I need to re-enable it, turn off and on the esim, and can then disable it again.

Best to just leave it on?

    balistics69 the IMEI is exposed when using the privileged eSIM activation tool so Google would be in a position to scrape it however there is nothing there to suggest it necessarily does.

    Thank you for your answer.

    Is there any difference in (potential) privacy / security if I leave Privileged eSIM management on all the time, instead of turning it on and off as needed?
    My phone reboots automatically every evening, and I need to turn Priv eSIM Mgmt back on, turn the eSIM off and on again to activate the eSIM after a reboot.

      balistics69 It is strange that you need to do this: I also use an eSIM (different country and operator, though) and it does not turn itself off on reboots (that would drive me crazy). But the switch for "privileged eSIM management" does.

      The only time I need to turn that back on is when I need to toggle the eSIM on and/or off, which I almost never have to do.

      Given my experience I guess that leaving the management toggle enabled won't work for you anyway since it does not "stick".

        lbschenkel Thanks for the tips, the behaviour is pretty strange, I dug a bit and here's what I found:

        • after a reboot, like I said, the eSIM is turned off. But if I put the phone in airplane mode and it off again, the eSIM magically works again (maybe the baseband needs a reboot?)
        • I confirm I have the same behaviour as you; if I leave Priv eSIM on and reboot the phone, it appears off
        • However something very weird happened today; after I went into the Internet settings, checked my wifi, and went back out, Priv eSIM was on again! This happened to me once and I can't replicate it, has something like this ever happened to you?

          balistics69 However something very weird happened today; after I went into the Internet settings, checked my wifi, and went back out, Priv eSIM was on again! This happened to me once and I can't replicate it, has something like this ever happened to you?

          Never noticed anything like that.

          16 days later
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          I have this issue, too, and for a long time. Actually since I first installed the eSIM, when GrapheneOS implemented it.

          I'm not pretty sure when exactly the toggle goes off, but after a simple reboot and installing a new GrapheneOS-update could be right.

          I know, it just a simple toggle to turn on, quite easy, but more often than it should, I forget to turn it on again.

          In that case I'm not available by phone anymore with that number from the eSIM (but the other number with the inserted SIM still works) and I had to turn it on manually. The problem: That's my business number and I receive regularly messages, that the number doesn't work. (and that's the hint for me, that I forget it again)

          So please fix that, if it's possible. Thank you!

          9 days later

          I'm seeing the same behavior - privileged esim turns off with reboot or ??

          HOWEVER - is it even needed once the esim is installed and working? (It doesn't seem to impact my carrier usage)

          Regardless - any way to keep it turned on?

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          Since the latest release 2022090400 there is an additional issue. The eSIM-function doesn't work anymore on 6a, it's greyed/inactive, probably because the Google Services Framework (v33) cannot be installed/updated any longer:

          Installation failed: Your device has an app installed with the same package name, but a different signature.

          Switching back to v32 works again.

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            I meant Pixel 6, not 6a. Sorry

            5 days later

            Any updates on this, am I safe to update from V32?

            Also - I'm unclear how privileged esim being left off affects my phone usage? Can I just leave it off (once my esim is implemented)

            • or is privileged esim required to use my carrier/phone number at all?

            • has the off/on behavior been identified (going into and out of airplane mode helps or not?).
              (I have noticed I can't find a way to toggle on/off mobile data w/o using airplane mode).

            • perhaps using Google Fi has an impact on behavior of privileged esim ??

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              The option has to be activated as far as I understand it.

              Since the latest OS-patch the version 33 of Google Service Framework works again.

              I cannot say anything about Google Fi, because it's not available in most european countries (probably I'm wrong and something has recently changed).

                [deleted] i guess i need to remember to toggle it back on after booting yhen 😧

                any apps that work on gos for auto triggering events (such as turning on priveleged esim after boot, disabling mobile data if wifi connection?)

                Due to having to always re-toggle on the privileged esim - I went back to a sim card.

                FYI... I didn't properly delete the esim - and needed some help from Google FI... once that was done I was ok.

                Once the privileged esim function doesn't turn off at a reboot - I'd like to go back to it and keep my sim slot available.

                Just can't take the risk of mobile not working because I forget to toggle it on

                lcalamar or is privileged esim required to use my carrier/phone number at all?

                As far as I knew it was only required to download or delete an eSIM from the eUICC chip. So when you enrol and scan a QR code to download a new eSIM and perhaps also when you delete it. Don't think it should need to be turned on just to use the eSIM — there is another toggle for that.

                As such I think you'd actually want the privileged setting turned off most of the time.