Although I have graphene OS on my phone, I would like to be able to use Molly when it has its own servers from my macbook. Is there any plan to release molly for MacOs, iPhone?

A good idea would be to be able to use Molly's servers to synchronize files using Signal's end-to-end encryption, I know there are alternatives like NextCloud (but they are too difficult for me to use) I would have no problem paying for this service, I'm talking file sync not saving files on molly servers

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Nuttso

Hello. I have a weird issue with Molly. I can make calls but cant receive calls. When the app is locked, phone is locked and unlocked I only get a notification that I have a message. I dont see the calling screen to be able to take the call. When im in the app I see the calling screen and can take the call. Im running version 7.0.2-1. What is the issue? Am I the only experiencing this? Can you please address this issue and fix this? Its useless if I cant take calls. Thanks in advance.

Nuttso

I noticed when switching database lock timer from immediately to 10 minutes I did get the calling screen and could take the call. Is this supposed to be like this? Can you address it so I can take call even when the database lock timer is set to immediately?

    PMUSR No if the database is locked, you can't take the call. It would break the purpose of having a locked database. You could set a fingerprint do you have to provide the fingerprint before picking up the call. But the database needs be open

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      Nuttso I am a layman. I've read the github regarding Molly-Up and socket many times and I'm stuck. Please explain how to get notifications with a locked database. So far I've installed Molly UP, Ntfy, and the socket file from the github. Whats next? I see "status: Molly socket server not found" in Molly's UP settings. I apologize if this is annoying.

      Nuttso No if the database is locked, you can't take the call. It would break the purpose of having a locked database. You could set a fingerprint do you have to provide the fingerprint before picking up the call. But the database needs be open

      OK. I understand. It is not possible even in the future to take calls even with database locked and at rest?

      Second. Im experiencing sometimes delayed messages up to 1 day. This is not good because I get sometimes important messages that I need to be notified right away they get sent. Is this common with database locked and at rest or is it only me? I have the regular Molly FCM installed with battery optimization turned off.

        PMUSR OK. I understand. It is not possible even in the future to take calls even with database locked and at rest?

        Taking calls with a locked database would break the purpose of it completely.

        PMUSR Second. Im experiencing sometimes delayed messages up to 1 day. This is not good because I get sometimes important messages that I need to be notified right away they get sent. Is this common with database locked and at rest or is it only me? I have the regular Molly FCM installed with battery optimization turned off.

        Molly supports generic messages since a few weeks. You should receive that generic message with a locked database right away. We are not aware of any problems currently. Tell us more about your setup.

          Nuttso Molly supports generic messages since a few weeks. You should receive that generic message with a locked database right away. We are not aware of any problems currently. Tell us more about your setup.

          I have only experienced once with delayed message that was delayed for almost 24 hour. Other than that im very pleased with it :)

          My setup is: Regular Molly FCM from Github. Version: 7.0.2-1. Databse lock ON set to immediately. Uses phone lock password. Battery optimization is turned off.

          What does generic message mean? It uses FCM? If so, that have been supported a while if recall correctly?

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          @Nuttso could you answer my question please.

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            Nuttso I've never used a matrix before. Just curious before I have to familiarize myself with and figure out how to set up yet another platform, Is there any reason why only my question can't be answered here where you've welcomed questions? I like to keep my account creation to a minimum if possible.

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              [deleted] @Nuttso Also it’s useful for people following the thread if the advice remains in the thread!

              [deleted] Is there any reason why only my question can't be answered here where you've welcomed questions?

              Typically questions involving technical help (such as your question about your server) are best sorted through realtime communication. Take 'live chat' which businesses commonly use instead of email for example.

              [deleted] Is there any reason why only my question can't be answered here where you've welcomed questions?

              Like dumdum said questions like yours are better solved in realtime. I don't want to flood this thread with specific troubleshooting. It's nothing personal

              I was wondering if Molly will support RCS in the future

                Nuttso I know the database password protects its data but lets say if the database gets breached somehow. Would it then be possible to extract messages that has been deleted either manually or self-destructed? Because I have heard from people that with Signal messages that have been deleted been retreived by Law Enforcement.

                  PMUSR Molly has a feature called "ram shredding". It's used to purge the keys, when the Database is locked. The db can only be unlocked with the passphrase. If an adversary has the passphrase, they won't be able to recover any deleted messages. Molly has two priorities for this year. Finish monero implementation and remote attestation. Both features would need to be audited. A lot of people are requesting molly to be audited. Ofc we would let them audit deleted messages as well. Just give us time. It wasn't easy to keep molly alive. The donations and help from the community are very limited.

                    Nuttso Molly has a feature called "ram shredding". It's used to purge the keys, when the Database is locked. The db can only be unlocked with the passphrase. If an adversary has the passphrase, they won't be able to recover any deleted messages. Molly has two priorities for this year. Finish monero implementation and remote attestation. Both features would need to be audited. A lot of people are requesting molly to be audited. Ofc we would let them audit deleted messages as well. Just give us time. It wasn't easy to keep molly alive. The donations and help from the community are very limited.

                    Ok. How is it technically possible or how does it work that deleted message cant be recovered even if someone has the db passphrase? Sorry for noob question. Just trying to learn :)

                    Second. What would the Monero implentation do for Molly? What is "remote attestation". I dont understand this because English is not my native language.

                    Also I just want to thank you for this great app and I appreciate it a lot :)