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Joe-FastFeet

23Sha-ger You should get the latest Cellebrite Premium

Alas, I don't have Cellebrite Premium. Can you tell me where I can read about how this comparison between Signal and Molly was made, using the Cellebrite Premium software you mentioned?

other8026

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gta3

What i mean to say : is it possible to ENFORCE both sender + reciever have message notifications set to off?

Otherwise a bad actor holding the phone can see message previews that the sender was not aware of

Nuttso

gta3 This is possible, but not planned for now. Stuff like this makes only sense after implementing remote attestation. Because if the receiver uses a fork or signal instead of molly we can't enforce that.

Ilgar

I've found that Signal has reproducible builds issue, which imo is extremely important. What's situation with reproducible builds of Molly?

Also regarding websocket efficiency issue of Signal, they did resolve it, though they choose other implementation. Did Molly follow Signals implementation of fine–tuned websocket notifications or kept own?

Nuttso

Ilgar reproducible builds work. We followed signals implemantation

Watermelon

I'd like to see Molly becoming an official variant of the Signal app.

simplenot

Watermelon Yes, please. I'm still hesitant to use it.

userofgos

simplenot I'm still hesitant to use it.

Why?

simplenot

userofgos I suppose it's one more party to trust.
I get that there are benefits but I guess I need a kick in the ass to start using it.

simplenot

Unless Molly spends less battery in comparison to Signal when there is no Google stuff installed at all?
That would be a great reason to switch + the added DB ecnryption.

23Sha-ger

simplenot Unless Molly spends less battery in comparison to Signal when there is no Google stuff installed at all?

By default, if you use UnifiedPush, it uses less battery than Signal. This is one of the reasons I use it.
DB encryption etc is nice, but on GOS it provides no real benefit, as even AFU device is forensics-proof.

simplenot

23Sha-ger This sounds great. How much more battery do you get with it - in your opinion?

DeletedUser499

I find Molly to consume battery at a ridiculous rate compared to my preferred message app.
That is the reason why I stopped using Molly.

simplenot

DeletedUser499 Do you have Play Services or not?

Novalissoide

DeletedUser499 did you set your Molly up with UnifiedPush?

DeletedUser499

no play services, no G@@gle anything. Just GrapheneOS and my messaging app, which uses significantly less battery.
note: my battery (P8a) is at 20% after three days, yes I know I am not a typical user..
Messaging app screen use 16 minutes, background use 2 days 3 hours, 21% of the (80% total battery used).
I know from experience that Molly causes my battery to drain on a daily basis, which I was not prepared to accept so I removed Molly.

DeletedUser495

DeletedUser499 this is not unusual, you should be glad app uses only so little battery considering the fact it uses websocket. And realize that battery percentage used is relative to other apps and systems. It just means it is your particular biggest battery hog, but even if we presume it discharging from full, in three days it means 1% per hour, likely less, considering other apps and systems also use battery power.

Norman

DeletedUser499 Consider setting up Molly using UnifiedPush instead of Websocket. This will solve the battery drain issues.
This is not a problem with Molly, it's a problem with your setup.

simplenot

DeletedUser499 Can you tell what messaging app you're using?

Norman That sounds interesting. Have you used the pre-available server or do you host your own?

I've tried Molly for the past two days and I have to say the app is excellent. I've deleted Signal and installed it on several phones (mine and from my family).

Great job devs!!!

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