Tether thru VPN?
MetropleX
That link doesn't work.
https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1600997491553755137
MetropleX Using the Owner profile's VPN for tethering/hotspot clients or using the Owner profile's VPN for other user profiles
Not sure that would be the popular use case.
We do have a feature request filed about adding a way to route tethered clients through a VPN, but we don't want to implement something that's worse than running a separate VPN on each of those clients. There is no obvious good way to implement this. It may be rejected instead.
The replies from 24coding reflects the true benefit and the most common use.
- the network operator can no longer see that the GOS user is running a hotspot. (some providers still charge extra)
- not all devices can be operated as a VPN client and therefore currently expose the IP that is directly linked to the GOS user. (most common reason this is needed)
- People with whom you share the hotspot do not necessarily have a VPN or care about your privacy.
I'm not sure why the assumed use case is to tether another device that can be a VPN client.
There are loads of devices that I'd like to tether that aren't running an OS that I can install VPN software.
Graphite Where can I find this feature request, so I'm not duplicating? Thanks.
Thank you.
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Graphite not trying to be obtuse but isn't that the only reason for tethering? What about the use case have I misunderstood here?
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- Car infotainment
- Chromecast / FireStick
- Cheap Fire HD tablet (processor can't handle the VPN well)
- All manner of IOT devices
- Tethering multiple clients can exceed the device limit of some VPN services. VPN on the router/host phone is 1 device.
- And most importantly, tethering family / friend devices that won't let you install apps.
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abcZ not sure how to reply to you both. Thanks for your responses. What's happened here is I misunderstood the layout of the conversation rather than content. But definitely some new use cases I'd not thought of so thankful for that.
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[deleted] not sure how to reply to you both
Type the "@" to bring up a list of users to reply to here.
[deleted] But definitely some new use cases I'd not thought of so thankful for that
The GrapheneOS project team still has this as an open feature request with low priority for almost 4 years.
The reason is pretty much that they feel the use cases are niche. I don't know, since they feel pretty common for me. I asked if they might throw up a poll to see how popular this feature really is. But I don't think they are interested in that.
My old Chromebook just hit the point where the built in browser is no longer supported by my VPN providers browser extension.
I went to share my phone's connection through USB and saw that it is bypassing my VPN, so that won't work.
PDAnet+ doesn't seem to have internet when I try sharing WiFi through it, and the USB option on there doesn't work either.
I'd say this feature deserves to be bumped at least to medium priority :D
Following on from the above. What risks do people see in tethering GOS to a smart TV for non-logged-in services? Giving a hotspot to watch YouTube anonymously. Or similarly screen casting?
I feel like association with anything is a danger.
Colvdv My old Chromebook just hit the point where the built in browser is no longer supported by my VPN providers browser extension.
Does this help?
https://support.google.com/chromebook/answer/1282338
It seems like there are a lot of ways to setup a VPN on a Chromebook, other than through browser extensions. Although if your Chromebook is old, maybe some of those ways don't apply (i.e. only work on newer Chromebooks)? I don't know. I don't have a Chromebook. I just wondered, after I read your post if browser extensions are really the only option.
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I was able to change the TTL by editing the TTL file in android file system. I don't remember exactly where the file was located but I'm thinking it was inside of the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl folder somewhere. Long story short I had to downgrade to an older version of android because after a certain update access to the TTL settings was blocked even with a rooted android phone. I confirmed this by installing Android 14 and used magisk and several other programs inside FDROID to try and change my TTL settings.
It was working flawlessly no data caps on my network as a failover internet. But I decided I wanted to try one more time to update to the latest firmware and see if I could get it to work. Big mistake because now I don't remember what I did to get it to work. It would be nice if graphene OS would allow some way to change this since many people who are concerned about privacy would like to use this method to enhance their privacy since you can buy a prepaid sim and have anonymous internet.
Im not sure if these new changes to the Andoird OS prevent Graphene OS from implementing a feature like this but it would be awesome to say the least since I will have to remove graphene OS and go back to an older version of Android. I think my use case is rare since I dont care about the privacy of my phone because it is essentially being used as a hotspot and cannot access my network since it is acting as a secondary wan.
I can easily bypass the TTL on my windows computer but like others have said in this thread it is not as easy or practical to change TTL on every client device.