BaronAfanas Thanks! I thought an announcement meant stable but now I know that they go through testing (alpha, beta) first before they are pushed into stable channel.

About Network Location. Organic Maps don't see me indoors, other maps and iPhone can see me in a couple of seconds as expected. Is it normal?

    Probably a dumb question, but I will need to have WiFi on for the new location thing to work right? Even when at a later date I can download the database on my device. Because I always turn WiFi off when on the go.

      When network location is enabled, is GPS turned off? If not automatically, is it possible to manually disable it to save battery?

        GrapheneOS Sure. Reboot didn't help. I'm using Organic Maps web release from GitHub with all permissions given.

        It doesn't work for me in Vanadium too.

          What quality of life feature! Wasn't able to use my digital id app on my tablet previously since it requires location to activate. Turned on Network location with GOS proxy and it worked like a charm!

          Fantastic work team đź’›

          GrapheneOS I'm having the same issue as @Jdjdoefndbej, my location isn't found indoors, it works fine on Apple devices. I assume that's due to missing cell tower scanning?

            Jdjdoefndbej avenging1683 Need more details on your setups and also logs from the Network Location app via the View logs feature in App info. You can show system apps in Settings > Apps and search for network location to find it.

              Jdjdoefndbej avenging1683 Are you using Battery Saver mode? Try without it. You might need to set Unrestricted battery usage mode for the Network Location app. We can do this ourselves in the next release as a hard-wired exception.

                GrapheneOS

                type: logcat
                osVersion: google/husky/husky:15/AP4A.250205.002/2025022700:user/release-keys
                package: app.grapheneos.networklocation:35, targetSdk 35
                buffers: main,system,crash,events,kernel
                level: verbose
                
                --------- beginning of main
                02-27 23:46:11.453  2040  2262 D WifiPositioningServiceCache: clean() removed 11 items
                02-27 23:48:14.789  2040  4696 D TrafficStats: tagSocket(71) with statsTag=0xffffffff, statsUid=-1
                02-27 23:49:17.757  2040  4696 D TrafficStats: tagSocket(71) with statsTag=0xffffffff, statsUid=-1
                02-27 23:49:53.803  2040  4696 D TrafficStats: tagSocket(71) with statsTag=0xffffffff, statsUid=-1
                02-27 23:50:13.979  2040  4696 D TrafficStats: tagSocket(71) with statsTag=0xffffffff, statsUid=-1
                02-27 23:50:40.479  2040  4696 D TrafficStats: tagSocket(71) with statsTag=0xffffffff, statsUid=-1

                1 user profile, no Play Services, never tried to turn developer options on, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth scanning on, network location through GrapheneOS proxy, SUPL and PSDS Graphene too.

                Jdjdoefndbej

                Do you have Google Play Services installed?

                I'm not an expert and also can't test it right now but this looks to me like Organic Maps requires Google Play Services to determine precise location:

                If your Android device can not determine your location, enable (or disable, if enabled) “Google Play Services” option in the app settings. Note: you can see it only if you have Google Play services installed (enabled) on your Android device. Google play services are used to determine location more precisely, if you experience issues with location accuracy after you disabled the option, turn it on.

                source: https://organicmaps.app/faq/map/can-not-find-position/

                I installed Organic Maps in a profile without Google Play Services and this option does not show up in the app settings.

                  Murcielago No, it works fine outside. With GPS I guess. My problem is not limited to Organic Maps, Vanadium can't determine my location too.

                    Murcielago Organic Maps uses the fused location provider provided by the OS which transparently supports network location. By default, GrapheneOS reroutes requests to Google Play to the OS location API. Organic Maps will behave the same way with or without their Google location toggle enabled by default unless you disable rerouting requests to the OS.

                      The built-in battery optimization we've added for our next release should work as expected with the next OS release to avoid people needing to disable Battery Saver. We just want to fix a regression reported with the Location toggle being disabled first and then we can do another OS release. The current one will remain in Alpha due to needing a couple fixes for network location and a fix for 5G only mode limiting availability to carriers supporting real standalone 5G.

                      sustained5314 it scans for Wi-Fi access points, so you need to either keep Wi-Fi on, or turn on always on Wi-Fi scanning which allows apps with the precise location or nearby devices permissions to scan for Wi-Fi access points even when Wi-Fi is off.

                      In the near future, cell towers will be supported for getting a rough location estimate and it can use that if Wi-Fi is unavailable.