mousetrapreplica On my last round I tried not updating the app for a while, which resulted in settings continuing to say RCS was connected but chats were not converted to RCS. It seems I have to update the app to get RCS actually working.
Last night, when I was going through the whole protocol of installing old Messages, I tried leaving it over night to see if Etouffee would ever go to true (which is I think the reason why chats do not convert to RCS--as long as RCS setting says it's connected, but Etouffee reports as false, RCS does not actually work). I did several reboots, but the old version of Messages never had Etrouffee go to true. Then I updated to the current version from Play Store, rebooted, and Etouffee went to true. So it does really seem that for some of us, you have to update the the current version of Messages for it to work and can't just leave it on the old version of Messages.
MrRoboto1212 I'll keep RCS disabled for now because this cycle every day to get more secure messages imo isn't worth the effort.
What happens to your group chats when you leave RCS off? I'd be happy to do that, but my group chats break, I don't get messages from people, it doesn't fall back to MMS, and if I create a new chat with SMS/MMS I'm not sure that people are getting my messages.
Honestly, this is the worst part of all of this. If group chats fell back to MMS without a problem, the way that individual chats fall back to SMS, I could live with RCS periodically breaking. But if I'm losing messages and people aren't getting my messages and people don't even realize it's happening, that's a nightmare. And trying to get other people to help me troubleshoot this by deleting group chats on their phones so we can create a new one or something is not tenable.