GrapheneOS relies on our donations for development costs, legal fees, infrastructure and to purchase new hardware.
Today the Pixel 7 will be announced and these phones need to be purchased. Today is the perfect time to donate if you havent already.
There are many ways to donate, consider becoming a github sponsor: regular donations allow for future planning by the project.
With 80,000+ users imagine where the project would be if everyone who is able gave $1/month. $50,000/month in donations is that possible?
I believe it is!
Are you a new user using GrapheneOS for the past 30 days and decided its your new daily driver, have you donated yet? Today is the perfect day to do so.
Donate and support GrapheneOS!
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I guess many if not most GrapheneOS users do not visit this forum or probably do not follow GrapheneOS news actively on other social media. Wouldn't it not be helpful when some kind of information regarding the various different donation possibilities were directly placed into the GrapheneOS itself? Or ist this something which would generally be considered as too obtrusive?
userxyz I feel that would degrade what has been a perfect experience. I would however like to post this link to raise awareness to anyone that has not donated to the project:
https://github.com/sponsors/thestinger
Every donation adds up. Lets keep this project going!
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nrt https://twitter.com/GrapheneOS/status/1578073223316619271?s=20&t=eqSbZB78HPMNVr0XGr7Yog
Just to repeat what I've said on Twitter now we have reached our current funding round goal:
Massive thankyou to our supporters/donators who are helping make the magic happen.
Each and every one of you are valued and appreciated.
MetropleX in the twitter thread you mention a pixel mini.
Is that a mini phone? Please be so!
onyourbikes Pixel Mini? Moi? Can you link me?
Might I suggest that you sticky the thread with all the donation information for those of us too lazy to go to the actual website?
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I said this many times to Daniel.
- Donation needs alternatives like Paysafe.
- I assume nearly 80% of the end user doesn't even know grapheneos need recurring donations
- The OS itself should have build in donation option. Also it should regularly present a screen to the user to help the project.
- Maybe like how wikipedia does it. Transparently show a progress bar how much of the yearly needed donations are already done. But all this has to happen on the end device.
- The other idea would be to let everyone pay like 10 USD for the luxus of updating seamless. Other wise they should compile themselves.
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Probably.
But in the meantime, if the project doesn't earn enough money, what will happened ?
If people are not happy, nothing prevents them from giving already to avoid what has been proposed by Nuttso.
We talk about $10 a year per user, almost all users could give them.
There is an ideal, and then there is reality.
Personally, I don't care about the method, as long as Grapheneos continues and developers can work in decent conditions.
This is an interesting topic indeed. I went out of my way to make a recurring donation through GitHub because this project has improved my quality of life substantially. At no point did I feel pressured into donating which I think is a bit problematic. I don't see anything wrong with politely soliciting donations like many other FOSS app developers do. I would be devastated if this project went by the wayside due to lack of funding. Just my two cents.
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hey guys. Why don't we just ask how much the recurring donations monthly currently are and if it is enough to keep this project just alive? There has to be changes to how it works now. Like it said 80% of the end users don't give a .... about twitter, this forum or other channels. They don't have a clue that the project needs support. People will hate to see the project end more than some stuff included in the os. That's what gonna happen if nothing changes. Every successful open source or nonprofit spams the end user with donation options. Signal does it. Wikipedia does it. Most important it is presented by the product directly to the end user. Not on any other channels. But if you install gos you simply can forget about everything else and be happy to get monthly security updates. I never said that security updates should cost money. But the work providing the infra for the updates shouldn't be included in my opinion. If you want latest security updates than compile it yourself.
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We must find a balance but pushing the people to donate on the os level is a must in my opinion.
Even if only to communicate the need of donation to the actual user's.
Paysafe would be a way easier way to donate. Simply go to the gas station or any store that sells it and send the money to gos
Personally, I have donated four times to GrapheneOS since the beginning of the year (about $25 each time) and I also donate to other projects that are involved in the defense of privacy on the net.
It's all a question of people, it's especially important to make everyone understand that participating financially is useful for the sustainability of the project and is a mark of recognition for the work done.
Paypal for me is perfect.
Lets do some math: what is fair compensation for a full time developer? Daniels github sponsorship is set at $5,000/month, which is on the low end imo.
The project currently receive less than $5,000/month recurring (based on github sponsorship figures).
5 full time developers x $5,000/month means the project needs at a minimum $25,000/month. Plus funding for legal fees, hardware cost, monthly infrastructure costs.
$50,000/month recurring funding is a very reasonable goal imo with 80,000+ users.
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Nuttso Incredible how bad and anti user friendly your suggestions are (especially 3,4 and 5). I hope they won't materialize. I understand the need to make the issue visible but please not like this.
Users who are willing to donate probably will and find their way, users who doesn't want to contribute in any way probably never will.
With your suggestions you won't persuade anyone but you would for sure alienate people like me who are willing to donate but refuse any ads (your banner is some form of an ad) on their own device, and they would rather leave. The same as I wouldn't use Mac anymore just because of annoying pop ups about iCloud. Plus do not forget that with your suggestions you would punish also those users who frequently donate.
The banner on download site or even on discuss forum is in my opinion acceptable, because I visit those pages and understand that donations are crucial for a project to survive. But I personally have no sympathy for being interrupted on my device in my time with a pop up wanting money. You could as well suggest to set up undismissible timer and wake users to not forget to donate - that would also be... Not entirely OK:-)
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100% disagree with "pushing the people to donate on the os level is a must"
If you need to inform the actual user at any cost, put the notification on download page or an installation guide, but not on user device.
Edit: added missing letter s :-)