I decided to call all phones a "Dumbphone".

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[deleted] Unfortunately, I agree with you. But still... When I was on Android stock, that is to say a week ago, my phone warned me when the weather became complicated, it warned me when to leave so as not to miss my train, I'm not going to list everything but it was a real assistant. And I often ask myself the question of reinstalling Android stock, even every day. GrapheneOS and Android stock aren't designed to do the same thing, even if GOS has evolved considerably.

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[deleted] I am going to answer with a question, do you wish to be just another member of the unsuspecting herd or do you wish to set the pace and direction in which you want to go? With GrapheneOS you get exactly the freedom to do that and the responsibilty that comes with your decisions. I don't regret a single day of using GrapheneOS and I can't imagine myself going back to life with the herd.

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[deleted] I don't consider myself part of a herd, I have a busy life and the phone was a great help. I can get on with my life and if I'm about to forget something the phone reminds me. When you see all the things you have to configure on grapheneos, all the application permissions to check, checking that this or that application receives this or that data... I don't feel like spending my time on that.

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I hate phones in general, and GrapheneOS helps me reclaim my ownership over my 6A!

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[deleted] What do you mean? Stock Android also asks you for permissions whenever you're launching an app the first time.

GrapheneOS doesn't seem to ask more questions than stock android does regarding permissions. It's even more convenient in that regard by giving you the ability to revoke the network permission upon installing an app (remove or leave the tick). There are no additional steps that I know of compared to the stock OS.

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I'm a bit on vacation so I'm giving my opinion everywhere here and I haven't been interested in my private life on the internet for a few days but after the new year I'll stop with that. Have you seen what the guys here do to set up even a mailbox? Who really does that? I'm sure his private life is going to be extremely private but I don't care, I just don't want to be bothered. The thing that made me wonder was a gar on this forum who no longer had a sim and had to review its operation, frankly it was interesting and I myself took measures in case it happened to me. Like downloading organic maps as well as all the maps, I then backed up all the maps but it's really for the day when there's an apocalypse on earth. If we get hit by a meteorite I'll need maps to know where to go 🤣. Anyway, I'll stop here.

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[deleted] Actually the devs are doing all the hard "configuration work" for you. You're just installing a finished fully configured OS you're free to customize as you wish.

It's like a new car where you're allowed to pick the seats you want, the interior finish (leather, diamonds or perhaps gold?), your rims, window tint etc. It's as if you'd be allowed to order a fully custom car.
GrapheneOS is like a custom made Ferrari tailored towards your needs.

I mean sure if you think that's a bit of a hassle you can always go for the mainstream semi customizable vehicle everyone else drives around.

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[deleted] Regarding maps just install Google Play services and get google maps if you don't enjoy Organic Maps?

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UpStream Hi, there. Organic maps is great because it allows you to save maps. If one day I have a problem and I have no network I have the apk of organic maps and the maps which I could install offline and I would have a real gps. Same for the calendar, I've downloaded simple calendar.

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[deleted] Ever since Steve Jobs came up with an iPhone in 2007, every tech companies started to follow the trend by offering devices that are similar - but a little different due to its namings and brands. And eventually people started to call these devices as smartphones.

Smartphones (including the term itself) predate that fruity nonsense by YEARS. My first smartphone was a Palm Treo 650 from 2003, but even that wasn't the first. The fruit company didn't come up with anything new or special, they just made it into a shiny fashion accessory for braindead imbeciles. Well, sortof. Its actually very much of a stretch to call anything made by the fruit company "smart", since it can only do what they allow you to do with it. A real smartphone can do anything that YOU want to do with it.

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bookreader shiny fashion accessory for braindead imbeciles

That's overly harsh. People have different ideas and priorities from you. I would MUCH rather anyone who 'didn't care' or didn't have a clue about all of this chose iOS over standard Android. Aside from Apple and what they collect, it's way less privacy invasive out of the box, it's extremely secure, it's got a robust back up system, has easy to implement E2E cloud storage. It's a very good option for many people. Most Android setups are terrible, unless you know to configure it properly or know about GOS. I would argue that's a way more 'braindead' option.

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mmmm I would argue that's a way more 'braindead' option.

I mean, braindead and sensible are two different things. Technically it would be "braindead" to just have a system that does everything for you and for the user to not think at all (like if someone was "braindead"). So therefore saying that Android needs users to "know how to configure it properly or know about GOS" would actually be the opposite since the user does think/do things themselves and so would not be "braindead".

Using iOS is certainly a sensible choice in many regards but it can still easily be seen (by some) as the "braindead" or, a better way to put it is, the "easy/quick shortcut" option.

Though the post was of course harsh, so no disagreement there.

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mmmm Claims need to be proven before you can rely on them, and none of the fruit company's claims can be proven. I guarantee is spies on everything you do. I wouldn't trust it for anything, and wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Its absolutely NOTHING besides a fashion accessory.

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Having discovered GrapheneOS and the control it gives me over the use of my device I am unwilling to settle for anything less, so the above mentioned options are non-existent in my world....