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  • Banking apps have updated and are now complaining about root

luigi Any idea how this could even happen (given that the bootloader is locked, there is no root, etc)?

Blastoidea Are the phones in fact rooted, or does the app just think they are?

That's just a one size fits all error message, GrapheneOS isn't rooted and doesn't support it either. The tl;dr is that GrapheneOS isn't certified by Google so if an app checks for that it fails, often throwing that error at you. Details here.

luigi Any suggestions for how to fix this?

Follow the troubleshooting steps here, failing that contact your bank and hand them this guide so they can start supporting GrapheneOS.

          +1 for website over apps!

          "An app is just a web-page wrapped in enough IP to make it a crime to defend yourself against corporate predation." link

          There are a few features that you get with bank application over the website typically. Biggest one is check deposit. I've never seen a bank website that will do that, but every bank application can.

          Just wondering if anyone knows whether Starling Bank still works? They are also in the Huawei store so there's some hope that they will remain more accepting of a degoogled phone.

            spring-onion thanks, this pretty much the exact answer I needed! Sadly none of the troubleshooting steps worked, I'll recommend that they fix their apps using that guide but I'm not sure it will be top of their priority list.

              I have halifax working fine but Lloyds i am still having issues so will work on it today to figure out what is going on
              Halifax will work on owner profile not user profile.
              Same applies with Barclays card

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                Tryptamine
                If it requires unnecessary permissions would it be good to use it in its own profile only?

                mhbcrypto
                As long as it's monero. Public wallets attract 5$ wrench "visitors".

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                      Just came across the below from lloyds bank
                      "We’re aware of an issue currently impacting some android phones that’s causing apps to crash. If you’re affected by this, you can fix it by updating Android System WebView or Google Chrome apps in the Google Play store."
                      Link
                      https://www.facebook.com/lloydsbank/posts/were-aware-of-an-issue-currently-impacting-some-android-phones-thats-causing-app/3931142980286246/

                          I installed a Pixel 7 Pro with GOS 20231115 today. Installed Google Play Services, Aurora and then made a new profile with them in. Installed the Lloyds app from Aurora, it installed and configured fine. Once in it refused to show me transactions but I logged out of the app, restarted the app, logged in again and everything worked.

                            Foggy Please give us more details. As reported here in this thread and on github the app looks to be using the play integrity api so it's strange that it's working on your end. Did you come across it complaining about your phone being jailbroken/rooted as well? Is it on the newest version? Which of the relevant settings as seen in the github post do you have enabled/disabled?

                              For me it worked initially after setting it up but then the next day it complained about "root" and refuses to work.

                              I tried it again just now, it logged in fine and I could see my transactions, no complaints.

                              Version 126.01
                              com.grppl.android.shell.CMBlloydsTSB73
                              Exploit protection compatibility mode: off
                              Notifications: off
                              Permissions: network and sensors

                              Sandboxed Google play
                              GMS version 23.42.12
                              Same permissions as above

                              Pixel 7 Pro
                              OS build UP1A.231105.003.2023111500
                              Native code debugging: enabled

                              Running in the third profile on my phone. No PIN/password/fingerprint lock set. Developer mode turned off in the banking profile.

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                                Foggy
                                I tired to download the app and also have Google play service running but I am getting jailbroken..
                                Tired again but same result
                                Google pixel 8

                                  @luigi @DeletedUser28 @Foggy @ntop @galaxyegg

                                  Thank you for trying to debug this. What keyboard do you all use? There have been instances of an app causing trouble because it doesn't consider your keyboard to be safe to use. There are now 2 reports indicating that Lloyds does in fact work fine but also plenty of negative experiences. Also are you running it in the owner or a secondary profile?

                                    spring-onion I've been using a fork of OpenBoard, but I just switched to the GrapheneOS (AOSP?) keyboard and it gave the same error. Owner profile.

                                      Same problem, same banks. I've tried from the Play Store and Aurora and with without/with all permissions enabled - no luck. The reason I switched to these banks was that they're not app only - glad I did now - it doesn't bode well for other banking apps. Seems like there's some kind of dark Google witchcraft afoot!

                                      spring-onion

                                      I've tried with the stock GOS keyboard and gboard (network revoked).

                                        I’m using the stock GOS keyboard in a tertiary profile - there are no apps in it besides Aurora and Lloyds (not even the Play Store app)