Tryptamine

I've not seen the concurrent app counter before, and still couldn't find it based on your double-swipe suggestion. Could be helpful. I'm not really trying to run that many at the same time. I am definitely a power user in the sense that I have Tasker, Resilio Sync, Nextcloud, and many other services that run in the background. That said, other devices don't seem to be hit as hard as the Fold, and yes the P6P got hit and slow almost as bad, but didn't seem to have as many issues with apps restarting.

I've played with that dev option and never noticed a difference in the past. I don't know what device default means, but I disabled it again just now to see the results.

It seems that when the Fold heats up, which is after fairly light use, it throttles like you say...and I think this may even impact the RAM or caching behavior somehow. When the phone is completely cool, I have a fairly pleasant experience. It's been so bad that I've contemplated building a new back for the phone case that's a heatsink.

I'm at 86GB system and 81GB apps, with 38GB files. 207 apps loaded. It's not like I'm trying to multitask or split screen or anything wild. No games, barely any media. It just feels like if the wind blows the wrong direction, this thing heats up and ruins my day. Especially if I even mention the phrase wireless charging to it.

Sure would love some non-Google hardware that can run this OS.

      scrampker if you had a Pixel 8 Pro it would be a much smoother experience, I can tell you from the months I've had with mine!

      Does it thermal throttle? Well yeah, all smartphone chips thermal throttle. Especially that beats they can the Snapdragon 8 G3! That one gives amazing performance for a but then it's a crazy swing down, almost to the Pixel 8's performance, then up, then down again from the graphs I've seen! The same graphs didn't have any G2 Tensor devices in then, but the Pixel 8 Pro took a while to start throttling, then it did so slowly and consistently, kind of like the iPhone chips just not with their level of performance.

      Running my kernel manager, I've seen the G3 in the 8 Pro throttle down, but back up quickly. It starts to throttle at a lower temp than the G2 in the 7 Pro did, by almost 10 degrees! Probably to not get so hot, which was a complaint of the predecessor. But it pulls out of the throttling quickly too once it has a short break. Also the cores deliver better performance at low clock speeds.

      Bear in mind, the Pixel 8 and the 8 Pro perform differently, with the 8 Pro being a much better performer! Same was true between the 6 & 7 regular and Pro models. (500 Geekbench points) I think its the larger chassis that is a heatsink for the chips, and then larger surface for radiating the heat. I have an OtterBox Defender for my phone when I'm out, and its a huge insulator, so I peel it off at home before doing more intensive stuff with the phone.

      As to the running app button, if you pull the notification shade down twice to get to all the quick setting buttons, at the bottom there will either be a lock and message saying you are connected to a VPN, and if you click on it you go to VPN settings. If you are not on a VPN that same large oval at the bottom will pop up the list of running apps in the background! If on a VPN, then you will find a small circle with a number in it directly to the right if that large oval. Click on that.

      Didn't think to add this before, make sure your in the owner profile! I always am.

      I also think it is good practice to pair down the number of apps running in the background. At the end of the day, its still a phone!

      You can also check for running apps in Developer Options. Right near the top there will be, right under OEM unlocking, Running Services. It will show the actually running processes, but click the three dots in the upper right and you get the second screen with "cached processes" and there you'll also see the true value for your remaining RAM!

          Tryptamine oh now I see it. 7 apps running. Even though 4 of them are tasker related. I'll see if I can reduce somehow. It honestly seems like a very light load. The tasker stuff barely does anything. There might just be some hard limits the phone is hitting.