Gpay alternatives for grapheneos?

MetropleX

tobru no as Google Pay/Wallet require full SafetyNet compliance, while GrapheneOS can pass BasicIntegrity the OS cannot pass ctsProfileMatch as that would require GrapheneOS to be whitelisted by Google.

Before the idea of bypassing the checks is brought up though as some other OSes or Root methods might allow. Please read the following: https://nitter.net/freechelmi/status/1553326311854276608#m

Orphee

Let me guess, Google will NEVER whitelist GrapheneOS.... ?

thequint

Stocard are no longer offering payment functionality via a dedicated card of their own, according to the change log of their latest update to the app:

We’re saying goodbye to payment. Stocard is still here. We’re just focusing on helping you to collect your loyalty cards in one app while working with Klarna to bring you more smoooth ways to pay.

What a shame. This probably explains why I wasn't able to find any reference to payment a month ago.

pascalw

I'm curious if any of the global banks like N26, Revolut or Openbank have working NFC payments on GrapheneOS. Is anyone using any of these banks?

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pascalw BBVA is working fine with GrapheneOS

Wonderfall

Some French banks support Paylib for NFC contactless payments. I'm using Paylib myself and it works well with GrapheneOS.

arthurv

Wonderfall Paylib still function for contacless payments? I thought they disable this function to be only a friend to frien payment app?

pascalw

I've been playing a bit with the banks I mentioned above. So far I've tried Revolut and Openbank and I'm happy to report that Openbank works on GoS without Google Play Services, including NFC payments. The app gives 'this app requires Google Play Services' popups on some screens, but everything works.

It does behave a little odd, where it initially rejects the transaction until I unlock the phone, even though in system settings I've disabled that the device needs to be unlocked for NFC to work. But maybe this is just a requirement of the Openbank app, I'm not sure.

free23

I got a Garmin watch with Garmin pay, The watch has an NFC chip in it. Solved the problem for me so I thought I'd mention it even though it's technically not what you're looking for.

billinmtl

Fitbit has similar option as Garmin - NFC chip on some of their watches, does not even need to be synced to phone to make payments.

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Is there a way to run Samsung Pay on the Samsung Galaxy Watch 4/5?

Grapheneos417

I can confirm that Commbank app can be set up as tap and pay here in Australia on Graphene os Pixel 7 pro. used this morning. Ta

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Grapheneos417

Are you able to share exactly what you did to get the CommBank app working? When I try and use the app and add a contactless card, I get the following error message "An error has occurred. Please try again later". No matter what I try the error persists and I can't add any cards. The rest of the app works without any problems.

Things I've tried:

Checked NFC is on
Checked that CommBank is selected as payment provider under NFC Contactless Provider
Checked permissions are allowed in CommBank app
Checked permissions are allowed in Play Services and Framework

I am running the latest version of Graphene OS on a Pixel 6. I have the CommBank app installed in a separate profile with Google Player services activated in that profile.

James80

Unfortunately we can't use Samsung pay on pixel....

JayJay

Just sharing my findings here.
I tried today using Curve Pay (downloaded from Huawei store manually) Here is a guide on how to download apk from huawei store without using their gallery app store.
https://aiomobilestuff.com/how-to-download-an-apk-from-appgallery-on-your-computer/
OR direct download APK url for Curve Pay https://appgallery.cloud.huawei.com/appdl/C102372409

It starts up all fine, can log in, set up, retrieve account details, see transaction history and so on.
It popups asking for HMS Core (I guess it's similar to Google services, since it's called Huawei mobile services) and this can be easily tapped away.
There is a button that pops up asking to activate Curve Pay, upon pressing this button it just spins and spins, and nothing happens.

I will try later today in another profile to install HMS Core and Curve to see if it's possible that way, and also after that to try to uninstall HMS Core.

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JayJay I'm pretty sure you need to install HMS Core Services and cannot be uninstalled and continue to use Curve Pay.
Sincerly, I'm not much confident from Google but much less on Huawei.
I think the best solution is to find a bank that implements in their app the pay services, like BBVA, Openbank and maybe others...

JayJay

So i made all possible tests in a new profile with the Huawei version and just couldn't get it to work properly.

New profile, downloaded app gallery, hms core, Huawei wallet, curve installed.

I have the button activate curve pay which I've always had. Even with with google version. Upon pressing it, it just spins and nothing happens. Same as google version does.
I am unsure which sources has been reporting a working curvepay on graphene but it sure doesn't work when I tried it.

Anyone who has a success story to share?

mgeo

JayJay
Hey! Do you still have that specific curve apk file? (Old version) that you got from Huawei AppGallery. Could you please send it to me?
I don't want the newer version through the link

JayJay

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My second findings and backup option if above will not work, will be to purchase https://www.spigen.com/products/pixel-7-case-slim-armor-cs
and put my card in the slot instead. I read reviews that it will be tappable this way anyway.
They have the same but in Pixel 7 Pro version too for anyone who is looking for it.

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JayJay wow! really? I'm assuming it's a prepaid card, but still, it doesn't seem the safest thing in the world...

ekasprzak

JayJay Unfortunately, in another topic somewhere here I have exactly the same story as you.
I'm trying to get anything from Curve Support and the fact that I'm a paying customer doesn't seem to change anything, as their first reply to any kind of question takes 4+ weeks (yes, really) and after those 4 weeks they ask me what model I have, which is something I wrote in the first sentence and it's been like that for months already so I have a feeling they're having some big issues in general.

As a conclusion - if Curve is currently and potentially the only possible alternative to Google Pay in GOS, then we got nothing.
Before someone says "But there is a bank X in country Y that supports NFC!" - specific banks in specific countries that support NFC directly are not GPAY alternatives and this is not what we're looking for in this and all other GPAY related topics.

JayJay

ekasprzak

I just read your other topic and yes, I had the exact same experience as you then. So far there are no solutions here which is too bad. Curve always answer after 3-4 weeks which seems to be their standard, not so good customer experience but since the service works fine otherwise, we don't need to get in touch with their customer service department.

I am not sure who has started the rumour that the CurvePay works with Graphene for using NFC tap, I can hereby say it is not working at all. Regardless which version we try.

During my research I found that LineageOS has a way to pass SafetyNet, with a module called ih8sn which does not require root even. However it does not work with Graphene according to users who tried in forums.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/guide-ih8sn-pass-safetynet-without-magisk-root.4450323/
https://twitter.com/osm0sis/status/1477333035230154755

So the issue seems to be within GrapheneOS here as there are ways of circumventing it obviously.

antip

JayJay after being hyped about this and starting to research if i could use ih8sn on my google pixel device, it turned out that SafetyNet has been superseeded by Play Integrity API at least according to this post on xda-developers, which really sucks if you ask me. :/

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