timbloom GSF is not Google Play services. It's not clear why you're fine with running the Google Camera app but not GSF when GSF doesn't require granting it any permissions but Google Camera clearly requires the Camera permission. It seems that you're misunderstanding the application privacy model.
Using Google Camera without Google Services
timyysoo Using an activated eSIM has never required actively using Google services. Only activation requires it and no change is happening to that. The release notes do not say that eSIM activation will work without Google services. Activated eSIMs persist through a factory reset or installing another OS, so it was possible to use eSIMs with GrapheneOS before there was support for activating them on GrapheneOS.
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Just to follow up - does Google Camera still need Play Services to function as of today?
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thetraveller1 I tried it for you. I installed, ran and then disabled Play services. Worked okay afterwards.
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thetraveller1 Currently, you need to have at least GSF installed, yes. Please wait for the next update.
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matchboxbananasynergy Do the same for the banks! A shim that allows you not to have to install Google services!
GrapheneOS I had a strange occurrence today. I recently installed an eSIM from a new provider. Doing so required installing play, services, and GSF. I did not uninstall them right away, not wanting to have to devote time to any untoward events that might occur (signal acted up, reasserting the message about push notifications, upon install, IIRC).
Today I uninstalled them, as the eSIM supposedly remains once installed. I don't think I messed with any other settings on this phone, but this afternoon I had severe lag in sms, with it saying unable to send to single recipients, then finally sometimes releasing, but no MMS capabilities, at least unable to send to multiple recipients. I forgot to test sending a picture. I reinstalled, everything worked. Disabled. msgs work fine. Re-uninstalled, everything working so far. Unable to uninstall GmsCompatConfig dependency, only disable. Not having looked for it before, maybe I don't want to do that.
Of course it could be non-related, but running the new eSIM and service for nearly a week I've had no problem until now, and never had any hiccups with a year or so same phone on another carrier. 3a, FWIW.
I apologize that this is sort of a hijack of the thread, but it is older now, and your comment is most in line with the knowledge I am looking around for.
Thanks
nooneparticular I also did a network reset. It seems I have a couple of pages of APNs now, none of which seem editable. The reset did not seem to affect them, other than to remove the highlighted button from the one presumably in use.
[deleted] I've also GSF disabled, but would prefer to not have it installed at all on my main profile where I keep the camera.
GrapheneOS You're right that I'm giving Google Camera more permissions than GSF.
In short, I don't understand what GSF does. I don't know whether leaving it on can lead to more tracking/profiling by apps that use it. To be sure I've been trying to keep it off.
Are you basically saying that running GSF has no privacy implications?
If you have any links to read up on what GSF does I'd love to hear.
timbloom did you ever get an answer to this question? I wonder the same
applesbana You can now use Google Camera on GrapheneOS without having Google Services Framework installed, and it'll work fine.