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GrouchyGrape

DeletedUser499 I've been using Molly going on I think 3 years now. The only times I've ever seen it in my top 10 battery usage apps is if I'm using it heavy for voice/video calls. You definitely had some configuration error going on.

Norman

DeletedUser499

Have you considered using Molly with UnifiedPush set up and performing the same 'experiment'?

I really don't understand why you have such a hard time understanding that installing Molly makes it, by default, run a permanent websocket in the background that actively checks for notifications regardless of contacts being available.

The websocket implementation is not efficient, and I'm telling you that this is what is eating your battery. If you install Signal on a device without Google Services, it will use the same websocket implementation and also drain your battery. The only way to stop these messaging services from draining your battery is by using Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging notifications (FCM) which is what Signal uses by default when installed alongside Play Services, or use UnifiedPush on Molly to avoid Google's implementation.

There are dozens of individual threads on the forums accusing grapheneOS of reducing battery life massively. A lot of these issues have been solved by setting up Molly with UnifiedPush, or using Signal with Play Services to use FCM. I myself have fixed the exact same issue you are having by setting Molly up with UnifiedPush.

Or you could keep the conspiracy theory going, ignore all advice or explanations and bury your head into the ground I guess.

I cannot make it clearer to you what the issue is. I've told you the solution. Others have told you the solution. Please read.

DeletedUser499

Norman

there is no conspiracy theory
others have suggested solutions,
also others have not read my post clearly enough without embarking on a rebuke
I don't use Molly, Molly-foss or Signal, because Like I stated my non scientific but observational test of the apps showed me that no matter how or what OS they were installed in, given my limited use of them they consumed more battery than anything else.

Norman I cannot make it clearer to you what the issue is. I've told you the solution. Others have told you the solution. Please read.

I DONT USE MOLLY, please read.... its in my earleir posts, I did not come here for a solution but to share my experience with Molly, thats all...

n3t_admin

DeletedUser499 you must not have many other apps running on those devices. For my last install, Molly (with WebSocket) was using between 2% and 6% battery. Never seen it above 10%. But that was also in a profile with around 30 other apps, so that's expected. The percentage in these consumption graphs is also relative, e.g. 37% of the used power was from that app from all apps. You will also have the same for hardware, e.g. display used 19%, which means 19% of all hardware components, not of the entire battery.

DeletedUser499

n3t_admin
I had only one additional app and its the messaging app Molly, both in GrapheneOS and standard G@@gle android.

I have left Molly etc behind and moved on, thanks for your assistance. If Molly became less power hungry I might consider it, but not at the moment, I use something else.

Lucario1829

K8y and do you need a phone number for Molly?

yes, its a normal signal account on normal signal servers, just a different app

K8y

DeletedUser499 I use something else.

What do you use? What's more private and secure?

Novalissoide

DeletedUser499 overnight on standby Molly consumed 37% of the battery consumption

This is just a proportion of app battery use, oftentimes it looks enormous when the manager goes into a fresh cycle sampling and user have only few apps active.

MetropleX

Okay we know why someone doesn't use Molly. Let's keep this on Molly and not devolve it into a battery management discussion. @DeletedUser499 has expressed their opinion, and won't be convinced otherwise which is valid for them. Let's let it rest now. Thanks.

Novalissoide

MetropleX Copy that.

gristle-cause

+1 for Molly amongst the DeGoogle crowd

Official Signal releases include calls to FCM - presumably checking for Play services before defaulting to a websocket. So far as I can tell, users can't disable it entirely. I had the domain blocked on my firewall, but grew tired of my logs getting littered

Swapped to Molly, no firebase calls at all. Nice. Total DeGoogle / divorce from Big Tech isn't a huge piece of my threat model, but I know there are others out there who weigh something like this heavily

wuseman

K8y
SimpleX maybe?

uthunku

Hello, not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I have set up MollySocket on Alpine Linux and for some reason I can receive connection pings from my VM, but I can't receive pings for msssages that other people send me. Not sure where to even begin with this. I'm using airgapped mode btw.

uthunku

Also, I can't receive any notifications (not even connection pings from VM) at all via MollySocket if Molly's database is locked. I understand that this is expected behavior?

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