My Experience with migrating to Graphene after iOS

VMulciber

In my experience (USA), getting anyone to switch is hard. People tend to settle to one service and stick with it. I have to convince my Android friends just as hard to switch to Signal.

ShoulderSurfin

VMulciber .. I do find that the Android people are more willing to try something other than the default, maybe like GrapheneOS. Re the post, I use private space (for the questionable apps and anything Google) and find it way more convenient than a separate profile. But my needs could be simpler than some. I just lock it when not using it. Google did send me an email saying they removed my Google wallet card as my phone had not connected in 3 months. That shows that GrapheneOS works.

TrustExecutor

You can use Private Space instead of another profile for those extra Google dependent or otherwise invasive apps. You can install them through your Owner profile, push them to Private Space, and then disable them in Owner. Private Space is way higher up in usability in regards to using a different profile.

footer4961

TrustExecutor thanks for the tip! Private spaces are something I haven't explored yet.

DeletedUser720

TrustExecutor and then disable them in Owner.

@footer4961 if you do so, you will break app updates, from what I recall. So now and then you will need to re-enable them in owner, update, re-disable.
I would consider another option - put them to restricted battery and disable background data. Not the same as disable in many aspects, but may be a compromise.

kaisernatron

The last time I tried RCS I learned that it was necessary to use a Google account, haven't tried it since

kaisernatron

DeletedUser720 That's not true, app updates are system-wide. If an app has been updated in a profile, all other users will receive the same update

Novaliss

DeletedUser720 re-enable them in owner, update, re-disable.

This takes less than a minute.

DeletedUser720

kaisernatron That's not true, app updates are system-wide

Should you re-read carefully both the referred post as well as my reply? Please come back afterwards and assess quality of your jump-in.

kaisernatron

DeletedUser720 If you meant that apps won't update automatically when app updates are disabled, that's pretty obvious and can hardly be called 'breaking'. It's intended behavior. What's the point of saying that?

DeletedUser720

kaisernatron

kaisernatron If you meant that apps won't update automatically when app updates are disabled

Should you re-read CAREFULLY both the referred post as well as my reply? Please come back afterwards and assess quality of your jump-in.

kaisernatron

DeletedUser720 Looks like you can't form a coherent reply outside of asking people to do this or that, or pasting old replies. Please (don't) come back afterwards and assess the quality of your responses. Consider taking a grammar class or a hundred while you're at it.

Novaliss

kaisernatron Hey there. Mind your own tone why don't you.

DeletedUser720

kaisernatron Looks like you can't form a coherent reply outside of asking people to do this or that, or pasting old replies. Please (don't) come back afterwards and assess the quality of your responses. Consider taking a grammar class or a hundred while you're at it.

I prefer to have worse grammar but better brain activity than otherwise (your choice).
It's funny how someone who was pointed at own thoughtless behavior do everything else but not fixing the source of being thoughtless.

Let me fix it for ya despite your ignorance and consequent arrogance that you first have shown by not reading what's written and considering others to be less smart than you are.

In https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/33365-my-experience-with-migrating-to-graphene-after-ios/4 it was recommended to only use owner's private space instead of other user profiles. Push apps from main to PS and disable those apps in main.
I've pointed https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/33365-my-experience-with-migrating-to-graphene-after-ios/7 that it will break those apps updates, because at least for few my devices, if I disable an app, it will no longer show up in Play Store updates. If I want to update them, I have to re-enable them first.
This, if that's not too difficult for you to follow, will lead to outdated apps in private space.
As those may be, among others, banking apps, or alike (those are mainly distributed via Play Store and not apks), it won't be a good situation not to have them up to date (in general), so worth knowing this aspect

Thus I've suggested an alternative to OP if enabling/disabling is not a way (many apps etc)

Now, @kaisernatron you can FO, or, if you're smart enough, apoooologize;)

DeletedUser720

Novaliss This takes less than a minute

True, if that's just few of them and you don't forget to do it.

AtavisticPuma

I have found that apps do still get updated by the Play Store when they are disabled.
(I am running the play store within the owner profile.)

jukebox626

footer4961
Switching from iOS to Android is always a bit of a pain, especially for users who have been in the Apple ecosystem for a long time. GOS adds another layer of complexity to that.

So, my advice is this: take your time, don't pressure yourself into going Google-free or FOSS-only right from the start. Make GOS work for yourself first, and then gradually improve it based on your privacy needs.

Keep in mind that even if you set up GOS almost like a regular Android phone (with Google Services and Google apps in your main profile), Google Services is still sandboxed, which is a big improvement over any other Android system. For instance, Google won't be able to track your location 24/7 unless you explicitely allow it to do so and you can also control permissions of apps that aren't even exposed on regular Android. Plus, you own this phone now, not Google (or Apple, in case of your iPhone) because they / their software don't have privileged access to it.