Isn't peergos great for grapheneos users?

MarSOnEarth

ianopolous Hmm. "Deleted local server"? Here's what I did; I started testing Peergos in my ~/Download folder. Things looked promising, but since that location is space constrained, I moved the whole Peergos folder to another HD, and that's when things stopped working. Pretty fragile for "inter-planetary", location independent FS, no? BUT, that's for another time, for now; how do I get out of this? Or, how do I start from scratch?

Thanks.

P.S. I'm not on Matrix (yet). Mastodon, Discord?

ianopolous

MarSOnEarth So you moved ~/.peergos to another drive? Did you tell the new Peergos where that folder is? Location independent means you can switch hosting servers and all capabilities to your files continue to work through any Peergos server, i.e. file are addressed independently of your host server (A combination of signatures and content-addressed data). Capabilities are described here: https://book.peergos.org/security/capabilities.html

MarSOnEarth

ianopolous So you moved ~/.peergos to another drive? Did you tell the new Peergos where that folder is?
Yes. The folder contained just the .peergos folder and the Peergos.jar file, nothing else. I also set PEERGOS_PATH to the new location.

Ian, I'm just finding so many things just not working through the UI (or just not working how they are described in on Github/in the book). For example, the initial space assigned is 1GB. Clicking on Upgrade and assigning new value is confirmed, but nothing changes after that. Another one; starting peergos.jar with the 'admin' subcommand changes nothing in the UI (I was hoping to delete the username with the missing "server"... no luck. Will that username be forever floating in the p2p IPFS space? How to clean that up?). User->Set Peergos Server => "Unable to update Peergos server. Unexpected error". Console keeps being filld up with "404 FileNotFound: peergos/v0/config/server-url/get" messages yet the server is specified on the command line. 10+ years in development yet things just seem so fragile. Would it all work better when hosted on peergos.net?

ianopolous

MarSOnEarth When you request more storage an admin has to approve it. You set the admins from the CLI with -admin-usernames. If you are an admin you can click on the user menu, then Admin panel to approve space requests. You can also directly set someone's quota form the CLI with the quota command. admin command is unrelated to the daemon command. run "peergos admin -help" to see the options.
Currently usernames are global and permanent. Read more here about the PKI: https://book.peergos.org/security/pki.html We do plan to make the PKI optional in the future and thus relax uniqueness of usernames: https://github.com/Peergos/Peergos/issues/1091
Set peergos server option was only just added, and only works with the desktop and mobile apps (which run the proxy command).
PRs are welcome! But i suggest you read the book to get acquainted with the possibilities first. There are many people self hosting it fine without any help.

MarSOnEarth

ianopolous You set the admins from the CLI with -admin-usernames

╭─[MarS@Devs11]─[P:\Peergos] (26.0.1)()─[25,15:01] ╰─ peergos -help Main: Run a Peergos command Parameters: server-url: Address of the remote Peergos or self-hosted server to use in app/proxy mode port: Localhost server port for app/proxy mode Sub commands: daemon: The user facing Peergos server shell: An interactive command-line-interface to a Peergos server. sync: Sync a local folder to a Peergos folder fuse: Mount a Peergos user's filesystem natively Password can be set via an environment variable. webdav: Provide a webdav bridge to a Peergos user's filesystem Passwords can be set via environment variables. quota: Manage quota of users on this server usage: Show usage on this server server-msg: Send and receive messages to/from users of this server server-identity: Manage the identity of this server gateway: Serve websites directly from Peergos mirror: Commands related to mirroring your data on another server migrate: Move a Peergos account to this server. version: Print the Peergos version update-home-server-id: Update the home server id for a user identity: Create or verify an identity proof proxy: Run a local proxy to a peergos server. This allows you to get the security and caching benefits of localhost, without running a daemon which exposes your IP address. admin: Manage users on this server stop: Stop any running Peergos instance pki: Start the Peergos PKI Server that has already been bootstrapped pki-init: Bootstrap and start the Peergos PKI Server ipfs: Configure and start IPFS daemon

i.e. there's no -admin-usernames

╭─[MarS@Devs11]─[P:\Peergos] (26.0.1)()─[25,15:03] ╰─ peergos quota set -help set: Set free quota for a user on this server Parameters: username: The username to set the quota of quota: The quota in bytes or (k, m, g, t) quotas-sql-file: The filename for the quotas datastore ╭─[MarS@Devs11]─[P:\Peergos] (26.0.1)()─[25,15:06] ╰─ peergos quota set moe 3t quotas.sql java.lang.IllegalStateException: set requires argument username at peergos.server.Command.ensureArgs(Command.java:85) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:73) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Main.main(Main.java:1422) Apr 25, 2026 3:08:11 PM peergos.server.Main main SEVERE: set requires argument username java.lang.IllegalStateException: set requires argument username at peergos.server.Command.ensureArgs(Command.java:85) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:73) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Main.main(Main.java:1422)

"moe" IS username

╭─[MarS@Devs11]─[P:\Peergos] (26.0.1)()─[25,15:08] ╰─ peergos quota set moe java.lang.IllegalStateException: set requires argument username at peergos.server.Command.ensureArgs(Command.java:85) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:73) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Main.main(Main.java:1422) Apr 25, 2026 3:09:24 PM peergos.server.Main main SEVERE: set requires argument username java.lang.IllegalStateException: set requires argument username at peergos.server.Command.ensureArgs(Command.java:85) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:73) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Command.main(Command.java:63) at peergos.server.Main.main(Main.java:1422)

...and so it goes. Peergos feels to me more like an academia/research product. The technology sounds impressive, the UI/UX not so much. Everything I read sounds great, and then I try it, and, and...

Thank you, Ian, and good luck with it.

subwoofer

ianopolous There are many people self hosting it fine without any help.

Is it possible to get one or two of them to post their experiences here? I think it would be very interesting and might help promote the product a little.

ianopolous

MarSOnEarth If you want to see the args for a sub command you need to run help on it. ie.
"peergos daemon -help" lists the -admin-usernames arg

Arguments are named, so you need -username moe, i.e.
peergos quota set -username moe -quota 200g

MarSOnEarth

ianopolous "peergos daemon -help" lists the -admin-usernames arg

Thanks, but this is what I get on my system:
╭─[MarS@Devs11]─[P:\Peergos] (26.0.1)()─[26,17:04] ╰─ peergos deamon -help Main: Run a Peergos command Parameters: server-url: Address of the remote Peergos or self-hosted server to use in app/proxy mode port: Localhost server port for app/proxy mode Sub commands: daemon: The user facing Peergos server shell: An interactive command-line-interface to a Peergos server. sync: Sync a local folder to a Peergos folder fuse: Mount a Peergos user's filesystem natively Password can be set via an environment variable. webdav: Provide a webdav bridge to a Peergos user's filesystem Passwords can be set via environment variables. quota: Manage quota of users on this server usage: Show usage on this server server-msg: Send and receive messages to/from users of this server server-identity: Manage the identity of this server gateway: Serve websites directly from Peergos mirror: Commands related to mirroring your data on another server migrate: Move a Peergos account to this server. version: Print the Peergos version update-home-server-id: Update the home server id for a user identity: Create or verify an identity proof proxy: Run a local proxy to a peergos server. This allows you to get the security and caching benefits of localhost, without running a daemon which exposes your IP address. admin: Manage users on this server stop: Stop any running Peergos instance pki: Start the Peergos PKI Server that has already been bootstrapped pki-init: Bootstrap and start the Peergos PKI Server ipfs: Configure and start IPFS daemon

I'm on the 1.26.0 version now, but 1.25.0 didn't have that command listed either. BTW, peergos -help and peargos deamon -help produce exactly the same output.

ianopolous

MarSOnEarth It is spelt daemon not deamon

MarSOnEarth

[blush]

ianopolous

subwoofer I don't know the grand majority of them. There are a few in our matrix room where I've posted about this. They're all pretty busy though it seems.

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