ADB and/or root access as a compromise until GrapheneOS supports the Pixel 10?

nameusernamename

Hey guys, I have been aware of GrapheneOS for a while, but since I had just upgraded my phone by the time I heard of it, I kind of set it aside. I now have the opportunity to upgrade my phone, but since I do it every few years, I am not too keen on purchasing an outdated phone. I have done my due diligence and I know why GrapheneOS is still not available for the new Pixel 10 series.

There are two main reasons why I am looking to make the switch: Privacy and an ideological support for FOSS. It's been so long since I've owned an Android device, that I have no idea how much Google actually collects. A good motto to live by is, "If Google can collect it, then they already are." But truly, when it comes to the worst offenders, what do they tend to be, and could I make it better than a stock iPhone with just ADB?

I know you can disable Google Play Services with it. That seems to curb a lot of the collecting. I do not use AI features in my phones. I wouldn't be signing in with a Google account and I wouldn't use any of Google apps. Also, what of rooting? I did some superficial searching and it seems risky, as I can brick the phone. Is that still current? Is rooting not recommended?

And while I appreciate any and all help, I will not purchase outdated phones, so please do not suggest the Pixel 9 series. I will not be buying any of them. If I cannot make the Google Pixel better than a stock iPhone, I will just wait and see if Pixel 10 gets support in the end.

raccoondad

nameusernamename Is rooting not recommended?

If you want a secure device, then don't root ever. Any device ideally.

I also don't think patches and many modifications exist for the pixel 10 ATM.

nameusernamename

raccoondad thanks for the answer. I understand there isn't much for Pixel 10 for now. What I am mostly curious about is whether disabling a few services here and there with adb could make for a reasonably private device or not while I wait for GrapheneOS. I would not use anything from Google.

JustBeginnez

nameusernamename
I'd rather not use adb for anything other than development purposes due to potential security risks.

de0u

nameusernamename What I am mostly curious about is whether disabling a few services here and there with adb could make for a reasonably private device or not while I wait for GrapheneOS.

Perhaps? But this is a forum for GrapheneOS users, not a forum about tips and tricks for attempting to "debloat" Google's stock OS. There might be a forum somewhere for that, but I'm not in a position to make that sort of recommendation.

userofgos

nameusernamename I understand there isn't much for Pixel 10 for now. What I am mostly curious about is whether disabling a few services here and there with adb could make for a reasonably private device or not while I wait for GrapheneOS. I would not use anything from Google.

Have you already bought the Pixel 10? Or still considering it?

If you haven't made the purchase yet, then I would suggest buying a Pixel 9 series phone instead (which are supported until 2031-2032). There isn't much of a hardware upgrade between the 9 series and the 10 series.

nameusernamename

JustBeginnez I'd rather not use adb for anything other than development purposes due to potential security risks.

Thanks for the input! I assumed these changes would persist after I turned off adb. It's been so long I've used an Android I am honestly completely out of the loop.

de0u Perhaps? But this is a forum for GrapheneOS users, not a forum about tips and tricks for attempting to "debloat" Google's stock OS. There might be a forum somewhere for that, but I'm not in a position to make that sort of recommendation.

I see. Sorry, I never meant to veer off-topic. I just figured that most people went to GrapheneOS for privacy reasons and that I could get some insight on what to do while I waited. Thanks for letting me know. If a moderator is reading this post, please feel free to delete it.

DeletedUser481

If you're using an iPhone right now, it would recommend to keep using it until GrapheneOS is compatible with the pixel 10. Disabling apps with adb will limit the functionality of the device and can cause unexpected behavior. I don't think it will be that long for support since GrapheneOS is now trying to obtain the QPR1 sources through the OEM partner they are working with.