Pixel 10 - Experimental support for GrapheneOS is now available!

Psyonico

I am curious though, can we get any word on if we're likely to see P10 support in the next 30 days? I ordered a P9 from Amazon, which is supposed to be delivered tomorrow, but just saw that for $100 more, I can get a P10 Pro as part of Google's black Friday sale starting on the 20th.

If we're likely to see P10 support within a month, I think I'll return the P9 and go with the P10 Pro and just use my current phone until the 10 is supported. But if it's going to be more than a month, i don't know if I want to wait.

de0u

Psyonico I am curious though, can we get any word on if we're likely to see P10 support in the next 30 days?

Lots of people can speculate, and many do.

If the project wishes to make an announcement, they will do so. But it's not clear why they would want to. If, hypothetically, they are 93% sure that they can release P10 support in two weeks, and they announce that, and things end up in the 7% case instead, people would complain bitterly. It's even possible that if they expressed confidence about two weeks and it were completed in five days that some people would complain.

"It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future."

de0u

Lauchtelefon Probably if you read something on the GrapheneOS discussion forum, and it isn't corrected by a developer or a forum moderator or a knowledgeable member, and you read something contradictory in the press, what you read here is more likely to be accurate.

Knoll's Law of Media Accuracy: "Everything you read in the newspapers is absolutely true except for the rare story of which you happen to have firsthand knowledge".

Eirikr70

de0u "It is difficult to make predictions, especially about the future."

I love that quote and with your permission I will steal it from you. Living on the other side of the ocean, no one should be wronged.

Psyonico

Yeah, I understand the whole "can't predict the future" thing, and I've watched enough devs teams and announcements that I know its not likely, it is just kind of a pipe dream that we could get a "we have about a 60% chance of releasing p10 support in the next month" or whatever.

Juiciferboi

Psyonico They've already stated the plans of getting all current devices to stable 16 QPR1 and then working on pixel 10 and that it will not take too long for them to do so once they get there. So for a time estimate just follow development it will give you a reasonable idea of how much longer. Unless they hit a major road block for some reason I believe their soon statement to hold true.

Psyonico

Juiciferboi thanks, I must have missed that post... is QRP1 still pre-alpha channel or did it hit alpha yet?

Psyonico

Nevermind, Just saw in discord that its in alpha as long as security preview is disabled.

PoI

Perhaps within several weeks.

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1990654565461500263#m

It may take up to a couple weeks.

https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/1990628161881591935#m

spl4tt

PoI
"... We can find time to debunk another falsely marketed product too."
XD Lovely.

de0u

Eirikr70 I love that quote and with your permission I will steal it from you.

It's not me by any means (click on the link to see the history).

Eirikr70

de0u I've read all the history of the quote, which has been endorsed by the most famous spirits of the XXth century. Anyway since I have read it from you initially, I can't steal it from anyone but from you ...
I will attribute it to "a famous Dane", so all of its fathers will be deadly happy about it.

wizoatk

Psyonico there is no reason to believe they get access to a March 2026 patch in 2025

The March 2026 Android Security Bulletin is in the current stable security preview release. Yes, that early.
https://grapheneos.org/releases#2025110800

Psyonico cite a source for the March 2026 patch being required before Pixel 10 support

It's been said multiple times, perhaps the latest is:
https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115567931700671462

burnoutdog

I have just read all of grapheneos's publications on the revision of adevtool and the integration of all CVE patches in 2025111801. What the developers at grapheneos have achieved is a masterpiece. I was able to see for myself how flawlessly the current alpha versions work. I have already upgraded the following Pixel devices in our family to these versions: Pixel 7 Pro and Pixel 8 Pro. I am absolutely certain that my new Pixel 10 Pro XL will run just as smoothly when the time comes. All obstacles that stood in the team's way were cleared in no time after the release of QPR1 and before that.

Many thanks to the entire grapheneos team for their hard, tireless, and professional work.

de0u

Eirikr70 I will attribute it to "a famous Dane", so all of its fathers will be deadly happy about it.

No objection from me (that would be much more accurate than Mark Twain or Yogi Berra). When possible I include the link, for two reasons:

Some people have heard the quote before with an incorrect but plausible attribution,
For all I know it may still be possible for somebody to laboriously review ancient paper records of the Danish legislature and discover who originally said it.

fernlike

de0u For all I know it may still be possible for somebody to laboriously review ancient paper records of the Danish legislature and discover who originally said it.

https://en.rigsarkivet.dk/

The Danish National Archives preserves the sources of your and Denmark’s history.
You can find material from the 12th century to the present day from both authorities and private actors.

Fancy a trip to Copenhagen?

de0u

fernlike Fancy a trip to Copenhagen?

That sounds attractive, but I don't read (or speak) Danish at all (yet?).

fernlike

de0u Don't worry, neither do the Danes https://youtu.be/ykj3Kpm3O0g

xcfmc

I have the Rango (pixel 10 pro fold) and I'd like to help with testing, troubleshooting, and maybe some development for this model. I cloned the repository, but it looks like the kernel source is either private or not available. I'm xcfmc on github as well. Do you have a repo with kernel source? Any chance I can get access and maybe contribute?

fernlike

xcfmc I think this should probably point you in the right direction https://grapheneos.org/build#prebuilt-code

de0u

xcfmc I think it might be productive to join one of the testing chat rooms.

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