Revolut mobile finance - not supported on devices with custom firmware problem

MasterOne

I have just skimmed through the last few comments and as it seem, GrapheneOS + Revolut is still a no-go, right?

To be clear, the Revolut apps detecting that they are running on a custom ROM during the login phase has nothing to do with the usual suspects, especially it has nothing to do with:

Play Integrity / SafetyNet
a certain string (like "lineage") in the Build Number
microG
unlocked bootloader
enabled developer or debugging settings
SELinux

I have tried several different ROMs on my POCO X3 NFC and the only one that works with the Revolut apps is crDroid, so if someone with the required knowledge and time could find out what they are doing differently, there may be hope.

DeletedUser370

MasterOne Play Integrity

It's using the Play Integrity API.

GrapheneOS

MasterOne crDroid is doing temporary workarounds to spoof the Play Integrity API device integrity level which is not a reliable or long term solution. It's something we could do and then we'll get endless rounds of people saying it stopped working when something changes, followed by substantial resources going into it again and again only to have it eventually stop working at all. It would take the place of a large amount of our privacy and security work. Counterintuitively, sandboxed Google Play also makes it harder to pretend it's the stock OS on a device rather than easier since it's easy for it to see how restricted it is and the way they do the weak software attestation for device integrity enforcement is super naive which makes it easiest to bypass in an OS doing away with the security model.

MasterOne

GrapheneOS DeletedUser370

Where does that info come from? Because that certainly is not the case, I tried with a plain vanilla crDroid installation without GAPPS or microG and the Revolut apps just worked!

On the other hand, I tried with another custom ROM which the Revolut apps detect as custom ROM, applied Magisk Alpha (because that's currently the only root variant that is not detected by the Revolut apps) and a Play Integrity Fix Magisk module (which got confirmed device integrity) and Revolut still detected it as custom ROM.

MasterOne

GrapheneOS If that were true, GrapheneOS + Magisk Alpha + Play Integrity Fix Magisk Module should work, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't. Anyone willing to try? Can't do it myself, because I don't have a device compatible with GrapheneOS yet (but I will get a Pixel Tablet and a Pixel 8a soon, hopefully).

MasterOne

GrapheneOS I really was hoping for another feedback from you, because that issue almost definitely is not connected to Play Integrity, because otherwise the Revolut apps would not run on plain vanilla crDroid without GAPPS/microG.

The catch is, this issue really is a show-stopper for a lot of people (including myself and my whole family), because Revolut can just not be replaced by any other service, as it's more than just a personal banking app, but also investing, for business and a crypto currency exchange (hence three different apps: Revolut, Revolut Business and Revolut X; all three causing the same issue).

temptemp

MasterOne I am not using GrapheneOS but rather a custom LineageOS ROM and I'm having the exact same problem as GrapheneOS users. I'm also running Magisk Alpha with PIF and Shamiko but as you said, it does not seem to be a Play Integrity issue. I think it might have something to do with DexProtector as mentioned by the creator of the custom LineageOS ROM on XDA

There does seem to exist some DexProtector bypasses for other banking apps like this github repo but I don't know if it could be easily applied to Revolut, since the problem is not root detection but rather detection of custom ROMs.

MasterOne

temptemp Never heard of DexProtector, but I do not assume it has to do with any of such, because the crDroid team surely did not implement a DexProtector bypass.

It really is totally awkward, I have tried several different custom ROMs on my POCO X3 NFC, and crDroid was the only one on which the Revolut apps work (as said, even on a vanilla installation without GAPPS/microG, just installed the ROM, installed Aurora Store, used Aurora Store to install Revolut and Revolut just worked without "custom ROM detected").

focalor

New Revolut 10.62.1 (1006205097) - still broken :(
What a shame, I was hoping the amount of complains they've received will make them change their mind.

user539

You can always use Revolut Website and put a shortcut on the home screen..

Viewpoint0232

user539

No you can't just use the website, you need the app to approve everything

cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd

user539 Nope. Revolut web UI doesn't includes the main features of the app, like generate one usage cards or view the card number/end date/CVV.
In addition, you need to allow the web UI to accesss from the mobile app each time you login into the web UI ;)

user539

Viewpoint0232 how would you use it on a pc/laptop only

ottoptj

user539 You can't. You need the app for Revolut to actually be functional.

user539

ottoptj awfull

SilverCat38

Every time I open revolut my heart ticks - hope it will be solved 🙏

cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd

SilverCat38 Don't count on it. Revolut will not solve the problem (because it is not a problem for Revolut) and GrapheneOS will not solve it due to what has been explained in previous posts.

dc32f0cfe84def651e0e

SilverCat38 I'm sooo happy I ditched them before they could block me away :)

DeletedUser370

cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd Don't count on it. Revolut will not solve the problem (because it is not a problem for Revolut) and GrapheneOS will not solve it due to what has been explained in previous posts.

If there exists a crystal ball where the future can be reliably glimpsed, I myself have yet to see it. We could go around in circles debating whether or not your vision of the future will come to pass, or we could just accept that no one here has the ability to predict the future with certain accuracy, even though you imply that you can.

Magic

Due to an emulator doesn't work either. Does anyone know a way to have the app without needing necessary other phone?

N1b

Magic unfortunately not, you have another phone oor you reinstall PixelOS in your current phone. If this won't be solved on Revolut's side, I guess it's best to move to another bank who appreciates security (or at least doesn't stand in its way).

I still hope this can be solved though...

cdflasdkesalkjfkdfkjsdajfd

DeletedUser370 o do not have a magic ball bit I've read the GrapheneOS answer at this thread and the official answer received from revolut to my officlal complaint, not a AI answer

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