Status of MitID app

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lbschenkel
Thank you for this post.

No one said that trying to live without conformity is easy.
Everything depends on our motivation.
I try not to use bank cards and totally refused to use mobile payments. Is it easy? No. I often go out from premises when I hear "We're cashless".
In Scandinavia this is on regular basis.

You mentioned Sweden. In Sweden you can live without BankID. You can interact with public entities, banks, use public transport etc. Please do not write: you MUST have Iphone Android..., it's essential. It is NOT true!
BankID is not a government issued app/solution. You are probably from Sweden, you should know that.

My position is that people like GOS' users should be educated to avoid surveillance capitalism, not given prosthesis
It is about mindset. The problem is that people claim around "You must have this, you cannot live without it etc" and people like sheep follow. " I was told that I must use it".

trilogy6202

lbschenkel

Hi Ib

Thanks for your effort. I can confirm that my version 3.0.2 have the same issue and I, like you, haven't been able to resolve it no matter what shenanigans i've gone through.

Thanks for the tip of manually downgrading to v. 3.0.1 through Aurora. That's a life saver though I didn't have a bacpup and have go to borgerservice to get an activation code. DOH!

I'm relatively new to GOS and didn't know of this issue untill v. 3.0.2 was out. I'll for sure get a code dongle for backup.

I really have to force myself not to start ranting too much about this app so let me just say that I FARKING HATE IT, IT'S A SHITTY PEACE OF PROPRIETARY GARBAGE!!

...that helped

...a little bit.

lbschenkel

trilogy6202 Do you have a biometric passport or ID card? You should try scanning your passport/ID via the app, it might save you the trip to borgerservice.

trilogy6202

No unfortunately my passport is of the old type without chip and I didn't see options to use other physical ID options.

I even tried reviving my old NemID app but that only work's for the initial activation/acquisition of MitID.

Which other (physical) Danish ID cards can be "biometric" and used to activate MitID?

I don't have digital drivers license, etc.

lbschenkel

trilogy6202 Denmark does not have any ID card so that option is not available for you (in case you are Danish). If you are an European citizen, then a national ID card (the one you can use to travel in EU in lieu of the passport) can be used, if it's a newish one that is biometric.

Other IDs such as driving licenses cannot be used. It must be a travel document.

lbschenkel

trilogy6202 Are you sure you don't have a biometric passport? All Danish passports issued from 2006 onwards should be biometric.

trilogy6202

I'm danish, I just misinterpreted the first sentence in your response then... The part about "ID card".

trilogy6202

Hmm... I don't remember exactly how old it is but it's expired. I tried scanning it like 20 times without success - without cover.

lbschenkel

trilogy6202 The passport has the date of issue on the biodata page. But if it's expired, it doesn't matter. It must be valid.

trilogy6202

lbschenkel I know it's off topic but I was looking at the code display as an backup option and found that they also have the "MitID Chip". Looking into it's spec, I found that it use the FIDO U2F standard which made me wonder if I could register any FIDO U2F complaint hardware tokens with MitID, like the Yubikey 5 NFC?

Do you know if that is possible?

trilogy6202

Ahh okay, that explains.

lbschenkel

trilogy6202 I'm certain that the only approved devices are the ones in the MitID page. To enroll a different U2F authenticator, they would need to implement generic U2F enrollment functionality to allow you using other hardware and they won't do that for obvious reasons.

lbschenkel

lbschenkel But it's good that you mentioned the chip option, I mistakenly thought that it was only used for company accounts, not personal ones. I checked and it's possible to have it alongside a code display. That can be a good way of having two authenticators and avoiding the app altogether. I'm considering ordering one (but unlike the other options, this one is not free).

Grkrz

lbschenkel how much it cost?

lbschenkel

Grkrz https://www.mitid.dk/self-service/order: 143.73 DKK (I didn't go through the order flow to check if there are additional mail charges).

user1

It's possible to order an extra code display dongle - that's priced at DKK 41.75 (incl. VAT...).

There's also the possibility of ordering a second one for free under the pretext of the first one having been lost or broken, but I'd assume the first one would be blocked in that case.

Edit: My solution going forward, having been without anything but the dongle for months, will be to install the app v. 73 in a secondary profile to supplement the dongle.

lbschenkel

user1 The website makes it pretty clear that you cannot have two dongles attached to the same account. You must revoke the existing one before it lets you activate a new one.

user1

lbschenkel Bugger, didn't see that. Nvm!

GrapheneOS

[deleted] This is very bad advice and it's completely inappropriate to criticize people for using GrapheneOS as it was intended to be used.

lbschenkel

Could someone who does not use MitID (or who does not care if it breaks) and has version 2023032600 of GrapheneOS + Play Services version 23.10.15 try installing the latest version from the store, launch it and report here what you see after waiting 10 seconds? (1) welcome screen (2) stuck at blue loading screen (3) message that the phone is rooted

Posichronic

lbschenkel Got stuck at the blue loading screen.

treequell

lbschenkel Testing: I installed the app now for the first time. The app opened fine for me and I got past the blue loading screen, accepted the privacy policy, and proceeded with adding Danish ID. I stopped at the point where my camera opened to scan a copy of a Danish passport.

Google Play Services version 23.11.14
GrapheneOS version 2023032600

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