What is the best messenger today?

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SpiderUser
A private messenger is only considered "good" when it has high adoption and user base, which will also
lead to broader peer reviews and community help to resolve issues.
No matter how "private decentralized quantum resistant _insert_gimmick_here" a new project will be, if
nobody is using it, and you would have to convince all your contacts to have it just for you, has no formal
reviews etc...No matter how good is it on paper and how good the team behind it.
When Signal (or what it is now) started, it was a small hobby project by a single person, it had many issues,
many crashes, was separated in 2 apps called RedPhone and TextSecure. I was one of the early adopters
but it really took time, patience and effort. Had terrible quality and frequent drops as well.
What I want to say if you have something proven, working, and battle tested, no need to jump on new shiny
stuff first, let it get some adoption and then decide.

1984

My close family and I all use SimpleX. My close friends have switched to Signal mostly because of me. I use Molly personally.

fragolone

SpiderUser GUI too much elementary and chaotic, the whole project received last update on February!

Velocity9490

[deleted] They accept VoIP numbers, so yeah, I guess. And you don't have to share your phone number with any of your contacts, since they have user names.

tomz

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locked

I don't think there is a best. There are many good options, signal, telegram when used with e2ee chats, are not set up by default. Groups in telegram are not e2ee. Session has a good concept, but message delivery is not reliable. They are making improvements to the infrastructure. However, the big problem is, how many of your contacts use it? I have most on telegram, followed by whatsapp, and some are on signal. I have couple of people I can communicate with on session, but it's just not worth it. I also use protonmail with a few people that also have protonmail and we communicate that way, because those mails are e2ee.

Onlyfun

sandfish786 i dont think signal is more difficult for eldery to use than whatsapp at all.

Onlyfun

DeletedUser479 signal is good, just the phone number requirement sucks. but still seems best compromise of all

AlanZ

I don't know about best.. I like and use Threema. Signal is legit, but I will be damned if I am solving Google Captcha for them. Telegram is fun, but hardly private (it could be, but more as an afterthought).

grapheine

Doesn't matter what I want to use, because nobody I really to cash be bothered to install a different app than their default iMessage to text. So, I'm stuck with QSMS and default GOS messenger. I use Session with my child, but they use an iPod and for some reason GOS hasn't been sending my notifications when they send me a message. Sucks.

yore

grapheine You don't have to ask everyone to switch messengers. I only ask close friends or relatives to install Signal if I feel the need. I also avoid framing it as "switching" and say to them they're free to uninstall it later if they wish.

This reduces the mental load on them and on you, and your threat model would help you identify who to communicate with on a private messenger and who it is OK to talk with on a non-private messenger.

In any case, you're using a private OS which already makes a big difference.

grapheine

yore valid point

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