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  • More private alternative to Vanadium?

I love Vanadium's security, but I'm not a fan of its privacy offerings and I'm willing to sacrifice a bit of security in order to increase my privacy. Using DivestOS' page here https://divestos.org/pages/browsers , I decided to switch over to Brave as my main browser, but I'm still on the fence about it. What are y'all using instead of Vanadium and why would it be a better option over what I'm currently using?

    Jojojo Er... what exactly is wrong with Vanadium's privacy options, the browser is specially designed for that. 😐

      Stewart Vanadium has no fingerprinting protection and a weaker content blocker. The GOS team themselves have said that Vanadium was built more for security rather than privacy.

        Jojojo OK, I didn't know that, I thought the opposite, I'm rather surprised by that

          Stewart I just did some further reading and found this older thread that you might be interested in.
          https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/4242-brave-vs-vanadium
          Brave tackles fingerprinting with its built-in features, while Vanadium's approach is to simply blend in with all other Vanadium users.
          I do appreciate Brave's better site-data isolation, though, so I might stick with Brave as my main browser for that reason alone.

          I'm all open to everyone's arguments, of course. I'm no expert, so some enlightening would be appreciated.
          For someone who still logs into Instagram on their browser (and acknowledges that it's generally a no-no here), what would be the most private option (even if only by a little bit)?

            In my opinion fingerprinting is almost a lost battle, it is so hard to avoid it.
            I prefer best in class security with some anti-fingerprinting with Vanadium rather than the alternatives with lower security and not good enough anti-fingerprinting compared to the high complexity of the problem.

            Jojojo Thanks for the link, I'll read what's being said.

            I'm using Brave for logins and persistent sites, and Mull in private mode as default for disposable browsing.

              Jojojo The GOS team themselves have said that Vanadium was built more for security rather than privacy.

              That's not true and you've misinterpreted it. Improving security is a priority before improving privacy and Vanadium focuses on both. The anti-fingerprint is very complicated and it only takes a very small user base for the anti-fingerprinting functionality to be called into question. I'll stick to Vanadium on GrapheneOS.

              Jojojo brave is the best option with adblock

              Rasta9 and Mull in private mode as default for disposable browsing.

              I wouldn't recommend firefox browsers on Android because it doesn't have per site isolation.

                jellybean Does that matter when using it as a disposable browser like firefox focus? I search something and then exit the app and it's gone.

                  AlphaElwedritsch yes, and I use brave as a permanent browser separate from the disposable nature. you're saying I could have two instances of brave at once and when I do a search from neo launcher's search bar it would open the disposable instance instead of the permanent one.

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                  I use multiple browsers.

                  • Vanadium for logging into certain websites that demand high security such as banking/finance.

                  • Brave for most browsing (history and cookies are cleared after each session). I do use Brave Sync as my main bookmarks collection though since I also use Brave on desktop.

                  • Mull/Kiwi for when I need an extension

                  • Cromite for some unimportant PWAs

                  • Brave Beta for other PWAs

                  I set an app called LinkSheet as my default browser that lets me choose which browser to open a link with.

                    Sbpr oh! This app is great!! Thank you for sharing! :D