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  • Any other ways to secure the use of the Pixel Camera and GBoard from IPC?

I believe only by installing on a separate profile which may work for the camera (although what a pita) but its unlikely to be a workable solutiin for the keyboard.

Aside waiting a Bit for the official method to arrive, you could use gboard sans network in a profile of trusted apps , and keep gcam in its own separate profile.

If I where you and I was as concerned as you appear to be, I would avoid using either of those apps until the scope is ready. Try heliboard for a keyboard. Never used gcam, but the stock option is pretty good, just learn how to take pictures instead of relying on ai. (No offence intended, I'm speaking as a professional photographer)

5 days later

GrapheneOS

GrapheneOS It is not a data exfiltration toggle, which would require apps having quite a few things taken away for basic enforcement including ability to play audio.

Hm, I see. However, if this permission serves a different purpose, what is that purpose? In my understanding it just serves to secure the use of the app. It's understandable that the app will be able to transmit information via audio, but it's like it's too much.

GrapheneOS You seem to be misunderstanding what it means and think it's a much more narrow concept than it is.

So my mistake, that I thought there were a lot fewer ways to communicate. And there may be various other conditions where programs can do that.

Then don't I have the full ability to isolate the program from everything?
I thought that communication scope, network right, storage scopes and so on were just for that...

I apologize, I just really want to understand

          Heliboard + FUTO Voice got me to ditch Gboard altogether. You can even get swipe typing on heliboard. I customized heliboard to look very similar to my old Gboard look and feel. The spell checker isn't as good, but still light years better than keyboards i tried in the past and is more than usable for me. Make sure to play around in settings, its very customizable. FUTO Voice integrates well with heliboard and is sometimes even more accurate than Google's Voice Typing. The only difference is that it waits until you stop talking before typing, which is a pro or a con depending on your preferred usage.

            Sbpr okay, I will try, but anyway I love using Pixel Camera, so I need some privacy understanding there

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                Sbpr I have lever heard og FUTO voice but if it is what it sats, it sounds interesting. Which language(s) do you use?

                  Sbpr in FUTO, if you tap on the microphone icon it signals you have stopped talking...

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                      razorsedge sorry for the confusion. i meant that it won't start typing until after you stop talking, either by going silent or hitting the microphone to manually tell it to stop listening. This differs from other speech to text apps that don't require a pause and will begin writing while you're still speaking.

                        testetsjjsjsshs sorry i missed this. You should be able to use pixel Camera normally even without google play services running. In order to view photos directly from the pixel Camera app, you need to have google photos installed. Both of these do not require network permissions for normal functioning.

                        However, to get all the pixel Camera extra features, you may need to temporarily install GSF or the full google play services and turn network permission on so it can download and install these features. Then you can uninstall play services if you don't need them on that Profile and restrict network access to pixel Camera and google photos again. Here's a thread that talks about it:

                        https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/2069-missing-unblur-tool-for-pixel-7

                            Sbpr

                            Thanks a lot for the Heliboard recommendation, it's the first time that the gesture typing in Spanish works almost as well as gboard (you have to include a library in advanced settings, it's uploaded in their own github).

                            Its configuration options seem clear and funcinoales, it seems that finally I will be able to leave aside gboard.

                              other8026 Ok, you said that different profiles cannot communicate with each other with IPC under any circumstances, right? But there is a way via loopback as you said? Can you please elaborate on how it works?

                                10 months later

                                GrapheneOS
                                Thanks for the explanation.

                                Any update on the App Communication Scopes? Has the development started or is it in a queue by any chance?