Is there a Navigation app that does NOT require GSF?

Mark81

I'm new to GrapheneOS and I own a Pixel 8 PRO. Until now I was able to replace all my apps without install GSF!
But I cannot find a Navigation app that does not require it.

I read this thread and searched on Aurora Store, but it seems that all require GSF.

I use OsmAnd, but it's more a map service, very useful for hiking, than a navigation app for everyday use into the city traffic...

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Mark81 you need to be very careful defining word navigation because for instance for me open street maps in a web browser with location permission enabled are are a pretty sufficient form of navigation.

commodore64

Mark81 Hello Mark81, I've been using MagicEarth for a couple years now and it works fine for me. If you email support@magicearth.com and tell them you have a degoogled phone, they will send you a link to download their apk direct. Their support group is great. You will not need GPF unless you want to use Android Auto.

If you don't have a TTS engine configured on your P8P, consider RHVoice. It's free open source and you can download it from their direct link. MagicEarth also provides how to configure RHVoice here. NOTE; The step-by-step TTS configuration might be slightly different for your Pixel 8 Pro.

Hope this helps and welcome to the GraphineOS Club.

Themble

Magic Earth

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Organic Maps

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d4f2 Organic Maps requires Google TTS (or anything similar, but no one similar software is available for certain languages like Spanish) and Google TTS requires to have Network permission all the time or to install GSF

Strelok

GraphHopper? Not sure what it uses, I have no GSF enabled and it works.
I only have a problem with the location but I need to experiment more.

And yes, OpenStreetMap in a browser works nice too.
You can set how you would like to travel (car, foot, others) and even via anothe rplace if you would like.
GraphHopper can do this too.
On OpenStreetMap you can chose 5 or 6 different servies to calculate your route.

wjl

I used OrganicMaps especially on older hardware because its downloadable offline maps are pre-rendered, so the whole application takes less CPU than OsmAnd(+). However, after buying a fitness tracker and integrating it with Gadgetbridge, I swapped to OsmAnd(+) on my Pixel 6a so I could track myself when excercising outdoors if I wanted to.
MagicEarth isn't entirely open source, but I think you'll have that problem anyway in case you want nice and good sounding natural voices, so that would be my preferred choice in a car (love the British English voices).
I don't have Google services installed, but all three work very well. Hope that helps...

jacobb

At least in Europe, Magic Earth is probably the best choice but it is not fully FOSS. Among FOSS navigation apps, I recommend Organic Maps. OSMAND has many awesome features, but many users (including myself) experience annoying lagging.

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Gmaps WV

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commodore64 this has made my day!

duck1

commodore64 Does the apk they send self update or will I have to email them each time to receive updates?

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ajfienvj184739458 people have different thresholds for triggering their reward center but I feel happy for you

mmmm

duck1 you need to keep check yourself, but the link they send you will work so keep ahold of it.

commodore64

duck1 Hello duck1, The direct apk (not downloaded from GP) does not seem to self update. The link they send connects to a password protected download. Mine still works but I have not tried to update my version.

You will get update notifications for maps you have downloaded for offline use.

I have emailed MagicEarth and asked about apk update notifications. I'll let you know what they say.

Regards,
Commodore64

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commodore64 duck1 they say precisely this:

You can check the link every 2-3 months or so for a new version.
The app prompts you when new maps are available and downloads them, but the app does not update itself.

Mark81

Thanks you all.
For "navigation" I meant an app that guide your throughout a route by car or on foot, like Goggle Maps, Waze, Sygic or... Magic Earth! Thanks for the suggestion, it's great.

Now I only have to understand how to make AA work - or better find a compatible alternative ;-)

commodore64

Mark81 Mark81, Magic Earth will fill your needs and here is their info on getting AA to work with GOS. Magic Earth FAQs - Install Magic Earth from Google play. APKs from other sources may not work with Android Auto. (CarPlay & Android Auto is towards the bottom of their FAQ page).

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RAC app maps and directions work

Viewpoint0232

Another suggestion not mentioned is HERE WeGo. Has live traffic info and doesn't need any Google services on the phone. I use it together with RHVoice (linked above).