Security updates only 5 or 7 years since release of the phone? What then?

missing-root

Yes for sure 500MB or less of RAM suck. App sizes are always growing, but 128GB of Storage and 6GB or more of RAM are simply enough for many things. I dont think the web will be so much different.

And I agree that having a phone for so long was not feasible in the past. My Nokia 7+ had nonexistent updates, but would still work today really well. If they are repairable, not made of damn glass, and usb-c is actually as durable as everyone says, why shouldnt they last 8 years?

And even if not, its simply a big problem if a phone costs that much. If it costed less, no problem. But a 2 yo phone for 300€, having 2 years of lifespan left?

I hope on getting a pixel 8 when they are available for like 400-500€. But I have no idea how many years will be left then.

bookreader

missing-root Yes for sure 500MB or less of RAM suck. App sizes are always growing, but 128GB of Storage and 6GB or more of RAM are simply enough for many things. I dont think the web will be so much different.

You clearly misunderstand. The Nexus 6 I'm referring to was a real powerhouse. 3 GB RAM, 64 GB storage -- plenty for today's requirements. The limitation it faces in keeping up with modern demand is PROCESSING POWER. The demand in terms of processing power grows very rapidly, and if you think that web won't need more in a few years, you're sorely mistaken.

bookreader

missing-root And even if not, its simply a big problem if a phone costs that much. If it costed less, no problem. But a 2 yo phone for 300€, having 2 years of lifespan left?

Phones do NOT cost that much. Phone pricing is a scam used to allow carriers to force people into financing contracts, which lock them to the particular carrier for the duration of financing.

missing-root

de0u thanks for the SOC explanation.

DeletedUser28

[deleted] you will be able to install divestOS and keep your phone for 30 years.

Let's make it a challenge.

2023-30: GrapheneOS with full OS and firmware updates
2030-35: DivestOS with OS updates*
2035-41: DivestOS without updates but most apps will still run and get updates**
2041-50: By then you might be able to install postmarketOS on it :)

So who's going for Pixel 8 Challenge 2050?

*DivestOS currently supports the Nexus 4 and 7 (from 2012, i.e. 11-12 years old) although they're stuck on Android 12 (2 versions behind). They support the Pixel 2 (from 2017, i.e. 6-7 years old) with the newest Android 14. So let's say DivestOS supports ends 12 years after the device gets released and will at that point be 2 Android versions behind. Might be better or worse for the Pixel 8, who knows.

**Android 14 now blocks apps that were made for any target API below Android 6. This will be a rolling block, e.g. Android 15 can only run Android 7+ apps. (Note that you can still install these apps with adb if you want but that's quite inconvenient.) So we might use 8 years as an estimate for how long apps are going to support older Android versions. If DivestOS will be 2 Android versions behind at end of support, this might mean you can still install and run most apps for another 6 years or so.

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