bookreader Thanks, I actually tried QKSMS but it's database is off or something, as it has stored messages to a contact in a separate thread than messages received from that contact, and then recently start losing messages with another contact, and doing a database sync in QKSMS lost more messages, so it's not working great for me. I see there's a new APK on GitHub that isn't in the stores so I guess may try that, but overall it's been buggy for me on the LG phone to be honest. I know a lot of people here love it, but that's not been my experience unfortunately which is why I'm looking for alternative ideas. I tried others like Simple SMS too but it doesn't say who wrote what on group texts so it's not viable for that phone either.