Sudden battery draining issue

de0u

RRZishe it seems like it is a graphene OS issue...

If lots of people running GrapheneOS don't experience the issue (which seems true), and meanwhile some people not running GrapheneOS do experience the issue, what makes it seem like a GrapheneOS issue?

As a random example, perhaps your device's battery is suddenly going bad. That would probably be a battery issue.

It could be a GrapheneOS issue triggered by a particular application mix. Or it could be a problem with one or more apps that would also occur if those apps were run on AOSP or on Google's OS.

Exodus7675

RRZishe in the same boat.

Do you have Play Services installed?

RRZishe

Exodus7675 yes

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RRZishe This is not a GrapheneOS issue. I've been using the OS for the past few years on several Pixel devices and have never had any battery drain issues.

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[deleted] I have experienced occasional battery drain on both GrapheneOS and stock. These were usually resolved with either some tinkering on my part or monthly updates, but likely caused by some particular application mix. Anecdotally, my Pixel running GrapheneOS, for all its ostensible limitations, is the least problematic Android device I ever owned.

RRZishe There are south of 200k of GrapheneOS users and any time something is affecting their user base, it's very quickly reflected in their GitHub issue tracker by multiple users reporting the same issue. There are no such issues last time I looked.

andrej567

I had maybe a similar one last week.

I do not have any hard evidence, i'll just mention it here. I am myself a developer but android is not my topic, I have no idea where would i dig out logs that would really help to understand what is happening.

At home, where cell and wifi signal is very good, I use the '4G' setting. The '5G' setting drains battery faster (4G takes about 1% per hour, 5G 1,5-2% per hour, with idle phone-during night). Last week I was at an mediteranean island, I noticed the connection switched fast from 3G/HSDPA or lower back to 4G and so forth. Within 4 hours the battery went from 90% to 40%. The cellphone was just in the backpack in the car. The next day the same. On the third day, I switched it to 5G and it was eating about 2%/hour.
On the same back seat there was wife's iphone 14, fully charged, wife took 200 pictures, used navigation for 1-2 hours each day and the battery was ₈₀% in the evening.

Now I am back at home, cellphone was 100% at 8 am today. Now it is 9pm, battery at 64%, I sent 2 sms messages and read 10 min newspapers on toilet. Hm quite hungry..

I use dual sim and google play services. There is element.io and whatsapp who could receive push notifications, no google apps except maps in incognito mode.
Phone idle=13%, System CPU=3, Screen 3, Android system 1, Android OS 1, Wakelock 1, Firefox 2, Mobile network 1, Fairemail 2. That is all.
I dont know. I can live with it, but i think i'll rather buy an iphone next time although i was resisting until now.

andrej567

i forgot to mention it is pixel 7a.
I would not be surprised if the problem would be in crappy mobile network hardware/drivers.
I used to have the cellphone in the final setup, back in june just without any sim card. I was amazed about the battery life. I woke up seeing 1% less battery than when i went to sleep. Once i inserted/activated the sims the noticeable battery drain started. Switching to airplane mode does not help. Probably the hardware is initialized and using battery then. Just guessing...

Drandroid

Hello
I have the same probleme with my pixel 6A
Battery draining very fast and the phone is hot when i use it

de0u

Drandroid I have a 6a. My battery is at 18%. My last charge was 68 hours ago (2 days, 20 hours).

What apps are you running when your phone is warm? Does it cool down if you disable 5G, or turn on airplane mode?

Drandroid

de0u
I use the lte i dont have 5g and the airplane mode dont help
When i use the phone without sim card just with wifi i dont have battery probleme

The app i use vanadium newpipe signal and telegram

de0u

Drandroid When i use the phone without sim card just with wifi i dont have battery probleme

Which carrier? Can you try a SIM card from a different carrier?

Drandroid The app i use vanadium newpipe signal and telegram

Do they all make the phone equally warm?

If the phone has been warm a lot for many days due to heavy use, it is possible that the capacity of the battery has been reduced by exposure to heat.

Drandroid

de0u yes I tried different sim cards.
sometimes the phone overheats without intense use
And sometimes no.
anyway the battery drain without using the phone too

JayJay

The information given from the default battery stats app is not sufficient. To find the culprit you need to use BBS and check the wakelocks

https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-2-2-11-dec-2022-v3-1-betterbatterystats.1179809/

Drandroid

JayJay
I tried to use the app but it doesn't work.......Permission issue i think

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Drandroid sometimes the phone overheats without intense use
And sometimes no.

My first 6a was like this. It behaved the same across stock and GrapheneOS. I was able return it citing inadequate performance and picked up another one 6 months later. I'm not sure whether this was addressed by software updates or it was just a bad unit, but I haven't experienced anything of that sort since. Apparently there are others. My current 6a is stone cold most of the time and battery gets me 2+ days.

JayJay

Drandroid
You need to read the instructions for installing it. The author of the app describes this in detail in post #4. However all his initial posts are recommended to read so you know how to use the app and interpret the information.

N3rdTek

I noticed a very weird trend with any type of battery drain post. It pops up one to two times a week, and every single time people waltz in saying things like "oh it's got to be something you're doing I get anywhere from 3 to 5 days and I'm a 'heavy' user." but then fail to mention that they're heavy use is really sending two maybe three text messages, one phone call, they open up five apps at most, and it sits idle 40 to 60% of the time in deep sleep/doze mode.

What we should be doing is comparing notes and usage patterns to better pinpoint what's going on. Do you use any Google services? How about a tidy owner profile? Do you utilize profiles at all for any reason, if so how often? 'Work' apps via shelter? Do you stream music? Game? Conduct research via vanadium?

I consider myself for example a moderate to heavy user, I get anywhere from 8 to 10 hours of overall use per day. Sometimes 12-16 with light/moderate use. However, I tend to stream music multiple times per day, I conduct a lot of research via vanadium, I text via telegram, messages, and Gvoice. I have sandbox installed, one profile only for all apps but I do have separate profiles for very specific things, which are used maybe 3 times a month. 4hr reboot time, auto brightness, dark mode, toggle off Location, camera, mic when not in use. I utilize neostore, play store, and izzy. Sync is off. I also use PIA VPN, almost 100% uptime but NO Killswitch enabled. 5g off. I forget to disable cellular radios when on WiFi, but working on it. But I do utilize a few accessibility services for power use. Edge gestures, Panels, Taskbar(not so much lately) battery saver always on. In fact I utilize Accubattery, Battery Guru, and SaverTuner all at once to verify stats are correct and uniform, and save more power (in theory) with SaverTuners more aggressive savings and gurus optimized doze settings.

Y'all are wild AF 2+ days quit lying. I could get that too if my phone sat idle most the time untouched

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N3rdTek Admittedly, I'm a light to moderate user (not sure about others but @de0u is probably even more so). It should be clear my 48 hours claim alone. I could probably get it to last much more, but also much much less. Mostly though I'd say I'm getting advertised hours.

GrapheneLover

I get around a full days worth meaning 100% to 0% if I only web browse and use telegram, and its much less if I video call, which gets me around like 6 hours 100% to 0%

N3rdTek

GrapheneLover like I was mentioning, without disclosing (unless comfortable to) what you do while browsing can you elaborate a little bit to give us a better understanding to your usage patterns such as games, lookup guides, watch videos, endless research that maybe started with 'how is cheese made' and find yourself looking up 'but wait how DO bumble bees fly actually? it defies science as we know it!'

Otherwise it's all conjecture and everyone runs around chasing imaginary made up numbers for arguably one of the hottest and the thirstiest phone I've ever used in my life

N3rdTek

[deleted] thank you for the elaboration. I will take your account as factual and verified

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