Proton pass Vs keepass

L8437

What are people's thoughts? I've been using keepass for a long time and I like the idea of it being offline and the magic keyboard too

But proton pass does look good too

[deleted]

Argon2 support is missing (but ready, according to the team), also lacks full support for security keys.
Proton will need some time to make its product more competitive.

[deleted]

I use Kepass DX offline. The idea of having my sensitive data on someone else's server disturbs me somewhat. Lol

Kottonballs

History is full of people using online password managers and then getting hacked. I think KeePass, KeePassXC, etc are much safer.

[deleted]

You can't even import your passwords into protonpass...

[deleted]

https://proton.me/support/pass/import-export-passwords

N1b

Not part of your question, but if you consider ProtonPass you might want to check out Bitwarden as well. It is well tested and comes with specific features like Emergency Access that I don't see in other Open Source password managers.

KeePassXC is more secure and fully offline. For convenience and features Bitwarden is the next best thing. ProtonPass is not yet competitive compared to Bitwarden in my opinion, but if it fits your threat model and you are already in the proton ecosystem, it might just be right for you, there are definitely much worse options out there...

DeletedUser301

East or west, KeePassDX is the best.

Relaks

I think it looks promising, for anyone considering a cloud-based and e2ee password manager. But I wish it had launched with a desktop app; that makes it a no-go for me currently. If it really doesn't have Yubikey support, that's also a no-go.

Also, when the current offer expires, the price will become 5 USD per month, which is vastly more expensive than Bitwarden's personal plan (which I currently use). Yes, I get a big discount if I subscribe before the end of July, but long-term it's not a great deal, and currently not a competitive price.

I used KeepassXC for years and I love it. It has all the features I need from an offline password manager, but the inconvenience of manually copying the database file to my phone whenever I updated it finally made me try out online password managers.
I think if Keepass/KeepassXC works well for you, I see no reason to switch. You can always try the free version of Proton Pass in order to compare.

dgzeij

If you can't live without online password manager, at least use Bitwarden.

https://bitwarden.com/pricing/

It's $10/year for personal use. Note: per YEAR.

But you will get about the same functionality with KeePassXC/keepass2android and push changes continously to your favorite free/cheap cloudstorage with Syncthing.

[deleted]

I prefer to use Vaultwarden a own hosted version of Bitwarden that includes Bitwareden premium features for free. I really don't need the premium features but I prefer to host my passwords at my machines instead of use the bitwarden hosts.

dgzeij

[deleted]

That's a valid use of Vaultwarden. As long as Vaultwarden is updated as quickly as Bitwarden, contain everything important, and both your stack and time can fend of any intruder. After it's hidden behind private VPN server with same considerations.

[deleted]

dgzeij of course, my Vaultwarden install is only avaiable, when Im' outside my home network, via a VPN connection.

itsjpb

i use keepass in conjunction with syncthing, which so far has been a perfect solution. no need for anyone else to store passwords imo

f13a-6c3a

I love Proton and what they do for privacy and have Visionary account with them just to support them best I can. The large drawback for me is that use of Proton Pass is entangled with the same TOS as their other services and, however unlikely, it increases the chance of false positive misuse of such TOS (email misuse, spam, drive files, whatever) locking you out of all their services, including YOUR passwords. Proton promises that offline storage of Pass will still let you access your passwords, but they still have to unbundle lockout of Pass from other services.

[deleted]

[deleted] There are no import parameters, I've searched everywhere and your link is useless.

[deleted]

I'm literally in front of it, and I've tested it on firefox and a chromium browser, I've got the "import passwords" tab, it's impossible to miss.
Check that you're on the latest version of the browser extension

[deleted]

[deleted] I'm talking about the proton pass application, there are no settings for importing either in the application or on their website. Setting up a manager is not recommended, it's at your own risk.

[deleted]

[deleted] And how do you set proton pass as the manager in vanadium?

[deleted]

And it doesn't even support 2fa in the free version, which is a basic feature in keepass and even Google offers it for free. Open-source software publishers have really believed in Santa Claus... Even bitwarden has removed 2fa from the free version.