PSA: Aurora Store will be down for a while!

Strive1154

Skyway I'm wondering the same thing

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Skyway This is what I do. I have a few official website APKs that either update themselves or at least let me know there is a new version. A few others I keep an eye on using RSS. Some people use Obtanium, but I don't have dozens of apps to justify adding it to my update flow. The rest are demoted to a separate Play profile. I don't need Google play services as much as I need a reliable way to get and update apps. It's a little clunky, but it works for me.

Oggyo

@Skyway and @Strive1154
Aurora works with Google (throwaway) account. You may need to create such and use it instead of anonymous login. Then even the search function works.

Skyway Make a second profile with play store and update in second profile ?

Sounds like an option, too. Haven't tried it, though.

Strive1154

Oggyo From what I read using your Google account on aurora could possibly result in your account being suspended. I think using aurora would be against googles TOS.

Would it be much different privacy wise to use the throwaway account with the Google play store vs. Aurora?

Oggyo

Strive1154 aurora could possibly result in your account being suspended

Yes, that's why use throwaway instead of real/production one.

Strive1154 Would it be much different privacy wise to use the throwaway account with the Google play store vs. Aurora?

I'm not so sure, maybe not much. But one big difference - when you log in to the Play Store app it automatically creates an account entry in Passwords and Accounts and it (eventually) can be enumerated by other apps. The account you use in Aurora stays there for the app.
However, using a throwaway account Google will still be able to fingerprint you based on the unique sets of apps installed in order to offer you updates. That's why Aurora anonymous accounts were the preferred way - like VPN/Proxy used by large groups of people and Google is trying to crack this down.

Strive1154

Oggyo yeah I'm hesitant to get my throwaway google account banned because it was a hassle for me to set it up without requiring a phone number.

Strive1154

Oggyo how could I remove this entry manually?

Oggyo

Strive1154 yeah I'm hesitant to get my throwaway google account banned because it was a hassle for me to set it up without requiring a phone number.

OK, this is going a bit off-topic but today I created my additional throwaway Google account. And it didn't ask me (mandatory) for a phone number. Not sure what are the conditions this depends on. Only Name, DOB.
However, when I signed for the 1st time in Aurora it asked me for a phone number or recovery email to validate my login. And here is when I used my other throwaway account (non-Google, but maybe doesn't matter) as a recovery email of the recently created one.
So far, so good. That's I suggested this as a solution I already prove it in practise.

Strive1154 how could I remove this entry manually?

Just navigate to Settings | Passwords & Accounts and select the Google account in mention. then the three dots a the top and remove.
Sorry, I don't have it on my phone but basically, this is the procedure. However, this is the case you sign in to Google Play Store. Signing in to Aurora will NOT add that account to Passwords & Accounts list.

54ysysw5y4s5n

Oggyo And it didn't ask me (mandatory) for a phone number. Not sure what are the conditions this depends on. Only Name, DOB.
However, when I signed for the 1st time in Aurora it asked me for a phone number or recovery email to validate my login.

Google has become extremely hostile towards anonymous accounts. The last few times I've made them, managing to bypass the phone requirement, they have been locked fairly quickly. The only anon accounts I've been able to keep alive are ones I made years ago.

Graphite

Related question... if a GrapheneOS user has the sandboxed Google Play installed, and that Google account is compromised, can the attacker auto-install (push) an app to the device without needing approval from the user of the phone?

matchboxbananasynergy

Graphite No. As you know, Play Store is a regular sandboxed app on GrapheneOS. As such, like all other apps, it has to prompt you before it can install an app. It can update it without telling you if it's the last app to install/update it, but the initial installation always has to be approved.

Overcook0708

matchboxbananasynergy
It used to be that you could update apps with the play store even if they were installed from Aurora but it seems that does not work anymore, at least in my case. Play store throws an error when trying to list updates

de0u

54ysysw5y4s5n Google has become extremely hostile towards anonymous accounts.

That might be a side effect of governments pressuring them more about international sanctions, GPDR compliance, protecting minors from controversial ideas, etc.

As much as those goals might be meritorious, they are not really compatible with anonymity. And "deep-pockets" companies are more likely to be sued.

Maybe they are just angry about missing out on tracking data, but maybe it's not just that.

Eirikr70

It seems to be about time that GrapheneOS think about providing an official store.

pdagenius

[deleted] very helpful information, thanks. Maybe someone can keep us updated when it is fixed.

Relaks

Working seemingly without issues while logged in with a Google account. Yet to be banned.