Apps slow/fail to launch after every OS update, needs several reboots to fix

hemlockiv

After every GrapheneOS update, many or all apps are either extremely slow, hang at the splash screen, or fail to launch entirely. This persists EVEN AFTER app optimization and restart has completed. The only solution is to reboot, sometimes several times, to make apps start working normally again.

Anyone else experience this? Any idea why it might happen?

legreteco

hemlockiv Anyone else experience this?

hemlockiv Any idea why it might happen?

Have you tried turning off secure app spawning?

hemlockiv

hemlockiv Anyone else experience this?

legreteco No

...are you responding on behalf of all Graphene users?

legreteco Have you tried turning off secure app spawning?

Interesting idea, but yes, I already have that turned off.

de0u

hemlockiv Are you responding on behalf of all Graphene users?

I don't recall similar reports on this forum.

One possibility might be one or more specific apps that believe they need to update or maintain something after each update. If that's what's going on, people who don't have the relevant app(s) wouldn't see the phenomenon.

hemlockiv

de0u Yup, I do try to search for topics before making a new post about them.

de0u one or more specific apps

No, sorry if I didn't give a good enough description of the problem. I am talking about ALL apps, even system ones like com.android.settings. It's definitely something about the update process that is making everything laggy or unable to launch. Per that previous person's comment, it almost does seem like maybe the zygote is implicated somehow.. Maybe before the next update, I'll try turning Secure App Spawning on to see if giving each app it's own zygote solves the problem.

de0u

hemlockiv No, sorry if I didn't give a good enough description of the problem. I am talking about ALL apps, even system ones like com.android.settings.

I may have been unclear. If one app is using CPU and/or memory and/or storage throughput like mad because it thinks it must do some task after each update, that could make everything run slowly on the device. If that's what's happening, nobody without that app installed will observe a system-wide slowdown.

Novaliss

hemlockiv Secure App Spawning

This should be ON for normal use.

hemlockiv

de0u I see, that's an interesting idea. How would I diagnose that? Because the gui is so laggy/unresponsive, I don't know if I'll be able to navigate to Settings > Developer options > Running services. But when I plug the phone into my pc I can get ADB to work fine, so anything commands/controls via ADB should work!

Novaliss

hemlockiv
Try disabling your developer options.
And also:
Settings > System > Reset options > Reset app preferences

Are you running low on device storage?

Johnnyloans

hemlockiv How would I diagnose that?

You can see overall CPU usage with an app like so

You can't have an itemized list; however, you can perform your experiment on the top of an even hour (E.g 2, 6, 18,) as the measurement periods under battery usage are partitioned at that interval.

Or you can get a hint by seeing what user installed apps are currently running: https://imgur.com/FmgMd7q
You can stop some or all of these to see if there's a change in speed.

Actually, this doesn't list every background app for some reason. Temporarily enable developer options and go here:
developer options > running services

After a GOS update, CPU usage will be high while it optimizes apps--that's normal--but afterwards should still be sluggish as you mentioned.

FAFAU

What's the device that You are using? Maybe the health of hardware storage drive is to blame?