Privacy Keyboard urgently needed

Elysium

Norman IDK why anyone else here isn't mentioning it.

Sometimes I feel like people are actively looking for a solution to a very unlikely issue, rather than wanting to hear common sense.
We don't prepare for the thunderstorm hitting our house, but digitally some people are on that level lol.

Johnnyloans

Norman IDK why anyone else here isn't mentioning it.

Elysium

Johnnyloans Or the situation could be:
you typed a word that's popular right now:
"I will go to the plant nursery for flowers."

Many people are doing that in spring.

Or while scrolling on X, it notices what you pause to look at and it knows your interests from last week or year.

Zayne

Johnnyloans What you type could theoretically be recreated in another app based on you tapping your phone and sensors picking up on it.

So apps with the sensor permission can perform keylogging?

Johnnyloans

Zayne

Yes, this was first realized over 10 years ago. I am sure it'd have to be fine tuned for a specific phone model to get this great of accuracy.

A thorough evaluation demonstrates that keystrokes can be inferred with an accuracy of 90.2% using accelerometer, gyroscope, and magnetometer.
-https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12652-020-01770-0

Onlyfun

Johnnyloans

Can you share any article on this?

Johnnyloans

Onlyfun

Here's another
https://medium.com/@tomasreimers/axolotl-a-keylogger-for-iphone-and-android-a8b7b62cdab4

Onlyfun

K8y
florisboard has private clipboard at least

K8y

Onlyfun florisboard has private clipboard at least

Does futo have this? Looking for new keyboard that doesn't share telemetry via IPC and has private clipboard.

Elysium

Johnnyloans
Almost 10 years ago, so today it will be much easier with AI when using certain apps.
It probably wouldn't even be enough if a keyboard offers to randomize the letter positions each time it loads. Because English language structure would be easy to guess. But at least your random passwords would be safe to type.

I did wonder if there is something like Whonix Kloak for Android, but there is nothing.

And lastly you still have https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Stylometry tracking threats. So even if you counter keylogger and keystroke fingerprinting, you still need 20 different personalities to write as.
Using different AI writing styles to rephrase what you really wanna write, might not be bad for privacy.
Or we stop using the services that want to track us like that.

K8y

Definitely not coincidence or browsing app contacting twitter. It was a very unique word and topic that I entered into an app like (but not) Signal only, from futo keyboard, which when I went to twitter it displayed in feed.

Keyboard logging via AI and IPC requires GoS attention.

thmf

K8y GrapheneOS built-in keyboard is the trusted and private keyboard. No need to install any other keyboard if privacy and security are your goals. Regarding the clipboard privacy see this part of the official documentation.

As of Android 10, only the configured default input method editor (your keyboard of choice) and the currently focused app can read the clipboard content. Apps without focus cannot read the clipboard. This is a stricter restriction than preventing apps in the background from reading it, since an app in the foreground or a foreground service cannot read it, only the foreground app that's currently focused. Clipboard managers need to be implemented by the keyboard chosen as the default by the user.

and

As of Android 12, the user is notified when an app reads clipboard content which was set by a different app. This notice is enabled by default and can be toggled under Settings > Security & privacy > Privacy controls > Show clipboard access.

Onlyfun

K8y idk

DeletedUser728

K8y Does futo have this?

In futo there is a setting to preventing storing sensitive items in clipboard history (private mode, password managers, etc). default is ON

K8y

thmf GrapheneOS built-in keyboard is the trusted and private keyboard. No need to install any other keyboard

How do u get it back?

Also anyone heard of Android Angle system? It was not black and white so I denied sensors. Only b&w apps are true system apps right?

nologo

K8y How do u get it back?

It cannot be uninstalled, so I assume you disabled it. Re-enable the AOSP keyboard (apps - all apps - show system apps).

K8y Also anyone heard of Android Angle system?

It's a system app.

K8y Only b&w apps are true system apps right?

Wrong.

Please don't mess with system apps.

thmf

K8y How do u get it back?

Check what's under Settings -> System -> Keyboard -> On-screen keyboard.
Disable the toggles for keyboards you don't need. The only one you need to leave enabled is the "Keyboard" with gray keyboard icon with greenish "AOSP" square on top of it.

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