Motorola partnership announcement

grzecel

datsyuk First Graphene Team need to get the handset(s) I guess and work on implementing their OS, test it, make sure it is perfect and allow users to get it then. I am happy to wait. Rush is no good with new software in my opinion.

pixelate

Any word on what GrapheneOS sees as a suitable replacement for Pixel's Titan M2 on the Signature 27's hardware?

userofgos

datsyuk I am buying instantly with good pre-order offer and GOS should be avalailable at first day.

datsyuk If GOS appears months after S27, it would be a bad start with Motorola.

I don't know where you're getting your info from. The GrapheneOS project has never said that GOS on the Motorola Signature 27 will be available on the first day of official launch of the device.

datsyuk is that simple. It is definately expected that GOS is available if not at launch, then really fast.

NO. It is not that simple. There is no guarantee that it will be fast. They have not given any definitive answer on when GOS will be officially supported and available for install for S27. Before Motorola made any announcements about the upcoming S27, the GrapheneOS project has always given a timeline of 2027 for official GOS support (source).

The latest timeline that has been given was in mid October: https://nitter.meowing.monster/GrapheneOS/status/2110145195358711932#m

[...] Motorola made an announcement about the partnership early this year. There will be another announcement once the initial device we'll be supporting is launched about the launch of official GrapheneOS support.

So the official date that GOS will be supported on S27 is still unknown. It is inferred that it will be announced on or around launch day by Motorola. Stay patient, don't buy the S27 expecting it to be immediately supported, and don't ask for timelines.

I'm sure there is still lots of work to be done by both Motorola, Qualcomm, and GrapheneOS to port GOS to the S27, including but not limited to, adding support for the latest LTS/upstream kernel branch: https://nitter.meowing.monster/GrapheneOS/status/2113391257502240781#m

The upcoming Motorola flagship uses a fork of the 6.18 GKI LTS branch and we'll need to port it to the upstream kernel too.

[...] Shipping this requires a long term commitment to porting all the relevant Pixel and Motorola/Snapdragon kernel drivers to the latest upstream LTS code. We've determined that's much easier than expected. The hard part is making the device independent LTS with all the backports.

userofgos

pixelate this is the latest comment I've seen about the S27 secure element: #41564628

datsyuk

userofgos The GrapheneOS project has never said that GOS on the Motorola Signature 27 will be available on the first day of official launch of the device.

Just bad english. In my opinion, it should be available at launch or in couple of weeks after that.

userofgos There is no guarantee that it will be fast. They have not given any definitive answer on when GOS will be officially supported and available for install for S27.

No there is no guarantee of that and they have not promised that. Again, in my opinion, months of waiting would be bad start to this Motorola partnership and I don't think it will take that long.

mmmm

datsyuk Just bad english. In my opinion, it should be available at launch or in couple of weeks after that

You better get coding it then. Chop chop.

datsyuk months of waiting would be bad start to this Motorola partnership

There never has been any talk of a tie with the phone and the OS regarding release dates. You're making up a deadline and then getting angry it's not being achieved.
Its the first time. Once its up and running you can likely expect gos to be ready sooner for new releases - similar to how it is now with pixels.

As it is at the moment you're sounding like a spoilt child stamping their feet becuase you didn't get the right toy for Christmas.

de0u

datsyuk In my opinion, it should be available at launch or in couple of weeks after that.

Personally I think it would be awesome if on launch day Motorola would ship all of the Signature 27 devices with GrapheneOS preinstalled, so anybody wanting to run the proprietary Google/Motorola version of Android would need to unlock and flash that!

Lots of things might be awesome, but not all of the awesome things always happen.

Johnnyloans

mmmm You better get coding it then. Chop chop.
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As it is at the moment you're sounding like a spoilt child stamping their feet becuase you didn't get the right toy for Christmas.

Someone saying GOS not being available on a Motorola till months after launch would be a bad look does not warrant these types of attacks.

Please be respectful. You know nothing about datsyuk other than their offered business knowledge. They're wrong to confidently say should at this time, but they may end up being correct, who knows.

mmmm You're making up a deadline and then getting angry it's not being achieved.

I see no hints of anger from the person. This honestly looks like projecting your state of mind onto the other person.

There is a deal with Motorola. Companies rarely spend so much time and money with no agreement in place. Both parties describe it as a partnership.

https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at-mwc-2026/

Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation, marking a new chapter in smartphone security and expanding its enterprise portfolio
March 2, 2026

mmmm

Johnnyloans these are not attacks or projections. These are merely comments designed to take the poster off their high horse and hopefully let them realise the world doesn't revolve around their whims.

Perhaps they were a little harsh but I can't understand some of the entitled attitudes that surround open source projects.

I'm sorry that it's offended you.

JimR

Please also make a midrange/mid-size/mid-price phone. I'm not paying stupid money to have a non-Google OS phone. I bought a discounted Pixel 10 for GOS and it is working perfectly but I really don't want anything bigger and more expensive than that.

datsyuk

mmmm You better get coding it then. Chop chop.

Yeah and if you talk about NHL players, then just go there and play yourself. Great logic.

mmmm There never has been any talk of a tie with the phone and the OS regarding release dates. You're making up a deadline and then getting angry it's not being achieved.

mmmm As it is at the moment you're sounding like a spoilt child stamping their feet becuase you didn't get the right toy for Christmas.

I am not angry at all. If months are fine for you, that is okey. I'm just expecting it sooner, nothing angry about it.

First Motorola to support GOS was first estimated in H1 or Q1 2027. Now that Signature 27 will be here sooner, I think GOS support will be sooner too.

We will see what happens but I am not surprised if GOS is available much sooner than months after release.

mmmm these are not attacks

Yes, they are attacks when you are suggesting someone is angry or like a child. Just focus on the point, not these unneccessary things that has nothing to do with the case.

mmmm

datsyuk they are attacks when you are suggesting someone is angry or like a child

datsyuk Skipping pre-order sale for just waiting an announcement is just more stupid way to buy the phone. I am buying instantly with good pre-order offer and GOS should be avalailable at first day. Not too bad if it will take week or two but months would be just awful way to start this deal with Motorola

Apologies but you write things like this and it comes across somewhat angry and somewhat spoilt. Didn't mean to offend, simply trying to say that until it's released there is no expectation to be held by.

datsyuk

mmmm Apologies but you write things like this and it comes across somewhat angry and somewhat spoilt. Didn't mean to offend, simply trying to say that until it's released there is no expectation to be held by.

Atleast in Finland we had so good pre-order sale for Signature (26) that I think it has never been sold lower than that in here. So depending on pre-order deal, it is unlikely that you should skip it just to wait an announcement from GOS. Obviously it depends on price and if pre-order price is like 1200€ or more, there are no hurry to order it. I just think it is high likely that they offer a good deal from the start and Black Friday is around corner too.

And yes, I think when they announced deal like that with Motorola, there are not going to be long waiting period for GOS support. Obviously they have not guaranteed any release dates, this is just my own expectation. When they both released that deal, there was writings about 2027. Now Motorola has said that Signature 27 will be released 5th november so I think there is high chance that GOS will be available sooner too and definately in 2026.

It is not just support for Motorola but a partnership with Motorola so I think they have done much work before the release date and after everything, delay of months would really surprise me but again, lets see what happens. There is no angry or some laughable spoiled things happening in here. Pretty normal speculation in discussion forum from my point of view.

And I think GOS will release some kind of comments in November 5 too. It would be pretty weird if the first supported Motorola phone comes in the market but there would be no word about more accurate timeline for GOS support. And from that comment or announcement, I predict we will see it is not delay of months. :)

mmmm

datsyuk I hope you're right! That would be great. But I suspect it will be 2027.

Panda-na

They haven't received production devices yet, just prototypes.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/117543695778814088

grzecel

What can I say?! If I want to put my hands on Razr flip phone (not signature slab or weird fold), I am in the worst position, where it's the last one to get the OS from Graphene! And I would love it to be factory pre-loaded where they will not void warranty for sure.
I think guys You need to cool down a bit.
Spitting the dummy if it takes time to get the GrapheneOS get their job done.
Smart comments, however with tong in cheek, annoying some people.
Politically correct users (plenty of them on forums nowadays! Where's the old irc?) making damning comments, sometimes 'glorifying' original post authors like they are some sort of saints who can't go wrong...
I think people get too personal in their reactions on public forums.
And all people here love Graphene OS ! So, let's keep it cool :-)

userofgos

grzecel In an attempt to make this cool and lighthearted, your post's are kinda hard to read.

It seems like English is not your native language, and that's fine. It would help to make it more clear if you run it through a grammar checker or something.

Also, adding line breaks would help a lot. You seem to write random thoughts jumbled together with ramblings and it's confusing to read, especially when they are incomplete sentences.

Not trying to be rude, just trying to make you aware that it's challenging to read and respond to your comments :)

grzecel

userofgos You still did... respond.

tux_

From what I have seen in early reviews and specs released so far, the Motorola 27 is massive (6.8" screen). As someone who reluctantly bought a 6.3" Pixel and finds it too big, that's rather disappointing.

userofgos

grzecel yeah cause I wanted to finally address this issue. On many occasions, when I read your comments I have to reread it multiple times to make sense of it, and still have issues.

grzecel You still did,,, respond.

Your above comment is another example, there is zero need for a "," and never any reason to use three of them next to each other. Maybe that was on purpose? 🙃

Again this is just my opinion

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