nosferatu I'm also surprised, how many people trust apple. But when you look at that from consumer view, what choices do you have, when you want smart phone? Android phones with google & chinese spyware and bloatware loaded, samsung with locked boot loader and their spyware with google's, or pixel with "just" google spyware. Apple at least don't make living from gathering and selling personal data as google does. Or it is not their primary source of income. I used keyphone before I found e/OS/ and later Graphene, but how many people can install alternate os, or buy new phones by their support for another OS? I'm happy I have some choices, but there are so few of them. When graphene decides to stop support for pixel 4 XL, I will have to go with e/OS/, or buy new phone.