ROM vs OS

vincente213

I just have a real quick question. I've heard a few times people saying GrapheneOS is an OS, not a ROM, but I always thought that a ROM was an OS.

What is the difference between the two? Are some other common ROMs actually OSs, or is there a fundamental difference between those and Graphene that makes them ROMs and Graphene an OS?

raccoondad

vincente213

ROM: Read Only memory: a part of a computers memory that can be read, but not written into. The bytes are static.

OS: operating system: A collection of software that makes your computer usable, usually includes a kernel, init system, graphics, drivers, firmware, whatnot.

These are two different concepts entirely

vincente213

raccoondad This I already know. My question is more of are all so-called "Android ROMs" are all actually OSes?

andrej567

raccoondad thanks for the explanation.. I tried to explain it here too in the past multiple times but the ROM thing comes back again and again :-)
It's so silly. If it would be really a ROM, no flash possibility, then putting graphene os into the cellphone would most probably mean some soldering, good luck with that... Software update? get your tools and skills ready.. :-)))

SgtSurehand

vincente213 frankly yes

Stephan-P

Correct.

In this light I'd suspect that the message "your device is loading a different operating system. " that is shown at boot-up is coming from the ROM. The Graphene OS logo shortly after is likely coming from the OS.

VEECCdYKYi

I would regard GrapheneOS in the same way an Linux operating system is refered as a distribution "distro".

You got AOSP and then you got a lot of different distributions of it such as Android, GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS and the OEM variations of Android.

The same way the operating system that is free of distributions FreeBSD has several distributions, GhostBSD, NomadBSD.

I think the term distro is very much applicable in this case.

Viewpoint0232

VEECCdYKYi

Exactly this. Android "ROM" is just a scene term similar to a GNU/Linux "distribution". An Android "ROM" is basically an "AOSP distribution". Some are just LineageOS with some tweaks, some have a large changeset from AOSP such as GrapheneOS. Commercial non-free ones like Samsung's OneUI could also be called an Android distribution/ROM with the same logic.

Meanwhile there is only one iOS, for contrast.

secrec

VEECCdYKYi different distributions of it such as Android, GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS and the OEM variations of Android.

Android isn't a distribution of Android (aka "AOSP") -- that's like saying Linux is a distribution of Linux. What I think you mean is Google Pixel (factory OS) as a distribution of Android.

raccoondad

andrej567 "Software update? get your tools and skills ready"

They could make software updates little cartridges like an NES XD

VEECCdYKYi

secrec
I might be wrong but. Well Android and AOSP aren't the same. Android is AOSP with Google's proprietary components built in. Android is trademarked and for a phone to sell it as Android phone they must add Google spyware to it. Amazon's FireOS for example aren't based on Android but on AOSP, same Huawei's HarmonyOS.
Android is ASOP with Google bloat.

andrej567

raccoondad "cartridges"

you would have to get the cartridges on this market
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2b/a2/5a/2ba25ac6a4fc5795e44ca76f372c366e.jpg

secrec

VEECCdYKYi "Android" is the blanket term that covers everything, including GrapheneOS.