Idea: virtualizing normal Android in a container

angela

I don't have an App I must use, but some people do. The Play Integrity API is annoying. Does that happen with AOSP, because if it doesn't couldn't a non-GOS AOSP just be virtualized when needed to get around this? There are old phones with less power, can't 1/8th of the phone CPU and RAM be allocated to mimic such an older phone or tablet?

In a better situation, this wouldn't be needed, but would this be a workaround? I am not good enough at understanding development and hardware to know if this could be done.

yore

angela Unfortunately it isn't as simple as it seems. It is trivial for software to detect a virtualized environment and a dedicated adversary can figure out the hardware being used via CPU performance, etc.

Some users have been spoofing as a workaround but if Google Play begins using hardware-based attestation (as they should) this will no longer work. If Google were to see a large number of users doing this, it wouldn't take much for them to find a patch against this practice. With roughly 300k GrapheneOS users, the project has stated that they will not be implementing this.

secrec

angela The Play Integrity API is annoying.

The solution to this isn't technical, but rather is legislative. You and everyone like you needs to pressure your government to force software developers to make their software actually work without these anti-competitive elements.

sboarder

yore

yore Some users have been spoofing as a workaround

How does one do this? Thankfully spoofing is not something I need to do at the moment, but I'd like to prepare myself in the case devs try forcing me to use Play Store.

angela

yore i understand now. great explanatiom, thank you. you're right about why.

angela

yore Is there a way to do this in GOS without rooting or would rooting be needed and do people do this on mobile chipsets or x86? if you have a simplex code so I can ask further questions or a place to direct me for further info would be nice.

angela

secrec Could this be done as a change.org partition asking the government to pressure google to make Integrity less monoploistic of an API?

secrec

angela Could this be done as a change.org partition asking the government to pressure google to make Integrity less monoploistic of an API?

Maybe

yore

angela I don't know how it is done unfortunately.

angela if you have a simplex code so I can ask further questions

I have XMPP. You can send me your user and I'll message you.

angela

yore can i send private messages in this?

yore

angela Admin have disabled it on the forum but you can put it here or in your bio and remove it once we connect.