Hello! Last week I set up NFC payments with a wearable and have to admit that I am pretty happy with it, tho this is not endorsement to any company and i think it still can be a better option. my setup was simply:

  • Curve as the card issuer
  • Tapster as the wearable issuer
  • FidesmoPay as the payment technology

About Curve

Curve is not a bank, but just a wallet, this means a simple frontend for all your cards. They send you a card and in the app you connect all your different cards. I would put the card in my phone case and that would already "Make my phone enabled for NFC payments"

The positive:

  1. The free tier comes with the possibility to add up to 3 of your cards, for more you will need to pay. I went for a paid subscription as it comes with several features that I found attractive but there is no need to do so.
  2. You go to the app, select the card that you want to use and just use the Curve card and will redirect the payment to the selected card.
  3. Once I received the card, the setup was really simple, also paying with it is quite easy too.

The negative:

  1. Customer support is really slow, I connected to a VPN and tried to do a payment , my card was swiftly paused as it was coming from a weird place, which is nice. But to unpause it took 2 to 3 days which is no good. For that I always will have at least one card with me
  2. The app needs google play services, I have it in the private space, and the play services without permissions, nor network nor sensors. So probably it just because of a library but not sure, as its closed source can not say.

About Tapster

This is more than an extra that i was curious, They sell wearables with NFC with FidesmoPay which is a like GooglePay without the google.

The positive:

  1. Setup was really easy, i enabled NFC in the phone, loaded the curve card and that's it, nothing more is needed.

The negative:

  1. You are giving more information to an extra company and I usually dislike to do so.

About FidesmoPay

Nothing much to say, is the underlying technology for contactless payments, its implemented in several brands of smartwatches like swatch or polar, among different wearables

Closing notes

As a synthesis, I found just making a curve account and putting the card on my phone case is all I needed just to make it work, as I can switch cards in the app and then put my phone close to it. The wearable is a nice touch not to even take out the phone, making it faster but if you have to switch cards you will still need to take out the phone. I honestly hope some day FidesmoPay, offer an app that does the same as google wallet, would be amazing.

Finally take in consideration that my use case of grapheneos and googleless style is about regaining control of my communications and information on my phone and not so much on where and how I pay, tho I understand this is too critical information.

    tree-barker
    thanks for this.
    i will not use any wearables as i already have a garmin and using garmin pay but i tested curve and is dead easy to install and configured on a secondary profile with a simplelogin address and a revolut virtual card.
    you do not even need to order a physical card. payments can be made using nfc. by enabling curve pay.
    its a good backup when i am on the bike and i have forgotten my cards home but have the phone to get a gatorade and not bunk.
    you even have some sort of cashback i tested with a cola from a vending machine and got 0.1 GBP back.

    time will tell how does it work compared to revolut.. notably for the changes fx will it be done by curve or by revolut

      m4ri0g payments can be made using nfc. by enabling curve pay

      Do you mean you could already activate curve pay? As far as I know this is currently only for Huawei phones and in countries where Google Pay is not available. I heard it will only be activated Android-wide in the future (?)

        manugraph
        yes all i needed to do is enable nfc on the owner profile
        then tap enable curve pay on the secondary profile where the app is installed
        the cards added are not local banks.. are revolut, n26 and wise with lituanian, german and belgian iban respectively. and i am not a resident of none of these countries
        it worked on a pixel6 sandboxed services installed but no google account nor google pay available.

          m4ri0g
          That's interesting. I've installed it to my owner profile, have NFC enabled and also Google services. Though I have also enabled a Google account. Could this be the source for the app not showing NFC-pay settings? 🤷‍♂️ I have to investigate that further and maybe installing it to another profile.

            manugraph
            https://help.curve.com/what-is-curve-pay-Skw9tMH7K

            just checking do you have fingerprint enabled on your phone?

            as i read is available in the UK and EEA for selected customers. I just hope is not a temporary thing
            maybe i am lucky..
            don't you have a enable pay in the launchpad menu? the doc says it can be done there for existing customers.

            did you install the newest version of the app? i installed the app through aurora store using an anonymous account

              m4ri0g
              Thanks, I suppose you're one of the lucky ones ;)
              I just followed your example and installed it to a new profile via Aurora with fingerprint and nfc enabled and it still does not show any setting for activating it.
              But I registered just some days ago. So longer users might either have higher priorities or I'm not in their A/B-testing group if it's a new feature.
              Let's wait some time :)

              Much appreciated! Once my Apple Watch gives out, I’d like to get a garmin and set up nfc on it.

              m4ri0g

              Could you share the app version codes for the beta app or the one with curve pay working from the app info page. so we could try to sideload those versions from aurora to see if we could be some of the lucky ones too.

                Woulden't think it would count as rooted.

                seems to work fine for that guy, we probably just need to install the beta app, or maybe its linked to your phone number in the app. in any regards its worth a shot installing if we get version codes tho

                andrej567
                this is the info of the app.
                https://ibb.co/P1rP9Zj
                i use graphene os. my bet is that is country related or i am a selected customer like the curve doc says.. i begin to fear is just temporary. like a trial or something.

                update from someone at Curve:

                This is Chitra ( Technical Programme Manager ) at Curve working on Curve Pay. Curve Pay is being gradually rolled out to all new and existing Curve Customers. Currently the Beta version is being tested by a selected few so please bear with us. Curve is available to people over 18 years old who reside in UK and all countries within the EEA.
                Again the feature to allow you to use your choice of Issuer for Fx rate is on the Product Roadmap - it will be worth the wait

                in a nutshell i was lucky. and I do not find the version i have installed anywhere i don't know where aurora pulled it from .. is not like my google account is beta enrolled or anything since i use anonymous unless the anonymous account of aurora is beta enrolled. hard to tell!

                  m4ri0g

                  Thank you for the update.

                  The version you are running indeed is the lastest stable release, i have the same one and have no curve pay options yet.

                  Seems your account was picked to be a beta tester, but good news is it seems they have plans to roll out fully in europe. maybe because your a avid user of curve. guess the rest of us have to wait for now :)