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I've noticed some people take it very seriously when a writer takes a simple, first person approach to expressing something, and assumes they are entitled or actually think they have a basis to give commands or demands, but for everyone out there, it's just a way of expressing something in a very simple way. It's not even trying to give advice. It's just expressing a perspective without having to use qualifiers and much language in each statement. It's like when you tell a bar owner, 'You should open on Friday's at 6', it doesn't mean you're trying to tell him what to do with his bar. You're just trying to nicely tell him that you'd like to patron his bar if he happened to be open at that time, knowing that if he hears the same thing from several people, he can build an idea of what would be beneficial himself.
I would do the install and setup for them as you mention, to try to use Graphene at least in the family, but I'm not in the same country, so after setting up their phones I can't do anything except spend hours with them trying to guide them through things that take 2 minutes, which I do sometimes, but usually they are not willing to do this.
I don't really want to simmer down my expectations. I value Graphene so much, as it is at least a possibility of not being spyed on. I just want people in this community to learn what was very surprising to me, that a good product for us won't be adopted by the 95%, and our good product is almost meaningless without that 95% being at least able to adopt it. In a previous post I noted how if Graphene or some privacy option offered something like Apple offers, which is just turn on the phone and it already has a set of 10 or 20 apps that work really nice and fun-ly and normal users don't have to do anything, it would be acceptable and fun for 95% whereas they will never care about the customization and so forth. The devs and everyone here can obviously do what they want, and totally ignore me, I'm not offended by that, but I'm saying this because it's not intuitive to us. I was shocked I couldn't get people to use Graphene even though I bought the phone and did all the setup for them. Now they could at least hope to protect their privacy. They don't care. They won't use it still.
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The camera is hardware and the same quality but from the perspective of normal people it's a different camera because they don't get that app with all the fun editing options and stuff. I've never personally used that app myself, but they tell me.
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There's nothing complex for you or I, but as an experiment try to guide a normal person through the process with the minimum guidance possible. Try it on GrapheneOS with them for an even bigger challenge. Try it over a voice call.
By the way, I was reading on HackerNews today, and this was part of the comments:
Commenter1:
"I honestly can’t tell if the judges in these anti-trust cases intentionally screw up the penalties.
Instead of forcing Google to do a thing they already do (allow alternative app stores on android), they could have banned them from distributing apps that require Google Play Services (i.e., all apps must run well on the open source version of android, which must be permissively license, and manufacturers would incur no penalties for shipping other mobile operating systems).
"That would instantly open the android ecosystem up to competition by making AOSP (and things like Lineage/Graphene) viable competitors."
Commenter 2:
"It's not the judge, it's you. You are showing incredible "tech nerd" bias by thinking Lineage or Graphene are "competitors" or that they could or will matter. They're nerd hobbies, they affect less than a hundredth of a percent of Android devices, and do not matter.
"What the judge did ban is a bunch of things Google did you may not have even realized they were doing, like the terms in the MADA agreements all manufacturers like Samsung, LG, etc. were required to sign which prevented any competition and required Play Services. The judge also banned revenue sharing agreements with manufacturers and mobile carriers used to prevent companies from using different search engines or app stores.
"Nobody, figuratively, will ever care about some custom ROMs. But the judge has broken all of the means Google was using to control device manufacturers."
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But isn't this because they're being viewed as Custom Roms rather than products to try to win over some percentage of the complete consumer marketplace. It's aimed at tech people, but GrapheneOS has progressed way beyond just covering the tech bases, it has everything that potentially it could offer itself as a (fun, useable) competitor to GAndroid and iOS if it made itself presentable in that way.
We can't achieve privacy protection without other people.