What % of idle battery is drained overnight for you (with sandboxed gplay)

u9ktanroat

I have a pixel 7 device with stock android 14 stable installed (latest security and play system update and I have been using it for at least 4 months) and it drains 1% per hour overnight (if I leave it for 8 hours it will drain 8% even when I set LTE to preferred, disabled always on display, set refresh rate to 60 Hz, and disabled nfc). This is not optimal for me at all because previous devices I used on stock android such as my pixel 5a would drain 1% every 3-4 hours minimal instead. I heard that graphene os with sandboxed google play services typically consumes less power on idle usage compared to stock so I just want to know what kind of % of battery is drained on idle overnight from people who already installed graphene on their pixel 7 or pixel 7a devices. I know that everyone has different usage patterns so if you are willing to let me know please include what kind of apps would run in the background overnight for you along with what % of battery is drained overnight.

Xtreix

u9ktanroat To be honest, I don't ask myself that question anymore because I leave my Pixel 8 with sandboxed Google Play plugged when I am at home.

https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Peter-Easton/4982f66e93387e02dd2c1d677d71f4f2/raw/4edf9a41ca3a4d053c8ad7bf365f97c923f01c61/battery-management.txt

Sandboxed google play and Molly continue to run in the background, but I usually disable Wi-Fi overnight, the cellular network is not activated unless needed.

u9ktanroat

Xtreix

I see. I am asking people with pixel 7 or 7a devices specifically because it contains the tensor 2 soc instead of the tensor 1 or tensor 3 because battery usage and optimizations may be different between each of the socs. I also cannot turn off cellular network access because I have to be able to receive calls overnight for my use cases. Also, I should have mentioned this earlier but even though I asked about idle drain usage overnight specifically the high idle battery usage I am experiencing on stock with my device also affects how much battery capacity is drained throughout the day (I am on the move most of the day so I cannot leave my phone plugged in most of the time).

andrej567

1% or less /hour. it is about 5% in 7-8 hours.
pixel 7a, latest os, dual sim, both 5g

it used to be much worse, this is acceptable for me.
last summer/autumn i had sometimes 40% /hour (doing nothing)

i must have two whatsapps, that + the idle state are the biggest drainers

u9ktanroat

andrej567
If you were to set both sims to prefer to connect with LTE instead of 5g would there be a substantial difference in idle battery drain for you or would the difference be negligible?

andrej567

u9ktanroat lte vs. 5g - I really dont know. This is magic. In november-december 2023 two things changed - there was os upgrade and my esim operator switched to 5g. Then the massive drains stopped. I don't know the exact reason.
Plus I know that the drain really depends on where you are. The automatic switching between the standards 2g ...5g propably uses some battery. I've been on a ferry and I had to switch the phone off. It was trying higher speed then it gave up.., switched so 2G, then went up.. every second or two. and the battery percentage went down visibly. Also if there is a background service that tries without waiting to get access to internet at every price in such situation, it's the drain nightmare.

aurocha

This is actually a good thing to watch. I have a Pixel 7a. I'll keep an eye on battery drain tonight and report my findings. I'm using sandboxed Google Play Services, some google apps (gboard,pixel camera,calendar,etc) and others, totalling around ₇₅ apps. I have the habit of switching off Background Data and App Battery Usage for apps that don't need to be running. I also switch off uneeded permissons, mostly leaving Network Access or Sensors, if they're needed.

u9ktanroat

aurocha
Were you able to keep track on how much % of battery was drained overnight?

aurocha

Hi, I was. Went to bed at aroud 22:40 with 74%, woke up at around 4:00AM and only 1% had been used, so I had 73%. I used the phone for a bit and woke up at 06:12 with 71%. The 3% drain was mainly because of the browser running on the background - I use Iceraven as a secondary browser because it lets me load firefox extensions (uBlock Origin, I still don't care about cookies and Dark Mode).

Mind you that I don't use Airplane Mode, although I switch off data and Wi-Fi and have it in vibration mode.

And like I said previously, most of the apps I use aren't using battery on the background nor background data. I keep that enabled only for apps I need.

Hope my findings are on pair with what you expect.
Thank you,

u9ktanroat

aurocha

I see. Thank you for your findings. When you leave your phone idle overnight do you notice that your phone usually has 2-3 bars or 4-5 bars in cellular coverage usually?